On Aug 13, 2014, at 10:32 PM, Michael Still <mi...@stillhq.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Joe Gordon <joe.gord...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Michael Still <mi...@stillhq.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Jay Pipes <jaypi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Just wanted to quickly weigh in with my thoughts on this important >>>> topic. I >>>> very much valued the face-to-face interaction that came from the >>>> mid-cycle >>>> meetup in Beaverton (it was the only one I've ever been to). >>>> >>>> That said, I do not believe it should be a requirement that cores make >>>> it to >>>> the face-to-face meetings in-person. A number of folks have brought up >>>> very >>>> valid concerns about personal/family time, travel costs and burnout. >>> >>> I'm not proposing they be a requirement. I am proposing that they be >>> strongly encouraged. >>> >>>> I believe that the issue raised about furthering the divide between core >>>> and >>>> non-core folks is actually the biggest reason I don't support a mandate >>>> to >>>> have cores at the face-to-face meetings, and I think we should make our >>>> best >>>> efforts to support quality virtual meetings that can be done on a more >>>> frequent basis than the face-to-face meetings that would be optional. >>> >>> I am all for online meetings, but we don't have a practical way to do >>> them at the moment apart from IRC. Until someone has a concrete >>> proposal that's been shown to work, I feel its a straw man argument. >> >> What about making it easier for remote people to participate at the >> mid-cycle meetups? Set up some microphones and a Google hangout? At least >> that way attending the mid-cycle is not all or nothing. >> >> We did something like this last cycle (IIRC we didn't have enough mics) and >> it worked pretty well. > > As I said, I'm open to experimenting, but I need someone other than me > to own that. I'm simply too busy to get to it. > > However, I don't think we should throw away the thing that works for > best for us now, until we have a working replacement. I'm very much in > favour of work being done on a replacement though. +1 I agree that that mid-cycles may not be sustainable over the long-term due to issues of travel cost (financial and otherwise) and a lack of inclusiveness, but I don't think they should stop happening until a suitably productive alternative has been found. Maru _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
