Yeah, I think I agree there. If we were to go the Neutron-incubator route, we'd 
end up with Neutron-Octavia, and I don't think that's what we want, right?
I believe to be "Openstack-Octavia" we need to be incubated as a separate 
project.

--Adam

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From: Kevin Benton <blak...@gmail.com<mailto:blak...@gmail.com>>
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Date: Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:55 PM
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas][octavia]

I think we need some clarification here too about the difference between the 
general OpenStack Incubation and the Neutron incubation. From my understanding, 
the Neutron incubation isn't the path to a separate project and independence 
from Neutron. It's a process to get into Neutron. So if you want to keep it as 
a separate project with its own cores and a PTL, Neutron incubation would not 
be the way to go.


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Susanne Balle 
<sleipnir...@gmail.com<mailto:sleipnir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Just for us to learn about the incubator status, here are some of the info on 
incubation:

https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Approved/Incubation
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewProjects

Susanne


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Susanne Balle 
<sleipnir...@gmail.com<mailto:sleipnir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 I would like to discuss the pros and cons of putting Octavia into the Neutron 
LBaaS incubator project right away. If it is going to be the reference 
implementation for LBaaS v 2 then I believe Octavia belong in Neutron LBaaS v2 
incubator.

The Pros:
* Octavia is in Openstack incubation right away along with the lbaas v2 code. 
We do not have to apply for incubation later on.
* As incubation project we have our own core and should be able ot commit our 
code
* We are starting out as an OpenStack incubated project

The Cons:
* Not sure of the velocity of the project
* Incubation not well defined.

If Octavia starts as a standalone stackforge project we are assuming that it 
would be looked favorable on when time is to move it into incubated status.

Susanne




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