On 2/2/15 7:04 PM, Sean Dague wrote:
On 02/02/2015 07:01 AM, Alexandre Levine wrote:
Michael,

I'm rather new here, especially in regard to communication matters, so
I'd also be glad to understand how it's done and then I can drive it if
it's ok with everybody.
By saying EC2 sub team - who did you keep in mind? From my team 3
persons are involved.

 From the technical point of view the transition plan could look somewhat
like this (sequence can be different):

1. Triage EC2 bugs and fix showstoppers in nova's EC2.
2. Contribute Tempest tests for EC2 functionality and employ them
against nova's EC2.
3. Write spec for required API to be exposed from nova so that we get
full info.
4. Triage and fix all of the existing nova's EC2 bugs worth fixing.
5. Set up Tempest testing of the stackforge/ec2 (if that's possible).
6. Communicate and discover all of the existing questions and
problematic points for the switching from existing EC2 API to the new
one. Provide solutions or decisions about them.
7. Do performance testing of the new stackforge/ec2 and provide fixes if
any bottlenecks come up.
8. Have all of the above prepared for the Vancouver summit and discuss
the situation there.

Michael, I am still wondering, who's going to be responsible for timely
reviews and approvals of the fixes and tests we're going to contribute
to nova? So far this is the biggest risk. Is there anyway to allow some
of us to participate in the process?
It would also be really helpful if there were reviews from you team on
any ec2 touching code.

https://review.openstack.org/#/q/file:%255Enova/api/ec2.*+status:open,n,z

There currently are only a few patches which touch ec2 that are ec2
function/bug related, and mostly don't have any scored reviews.
Especially this series -
https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/ec2-volume-and-snapshot-tags,n,z


Which is a month old with no scoring.

Yes, we'll start looking there as well.

        -Sean

Best regards,
   Alex Levine

On 2/2/15 2:46 AM, Michael Still wrote:
So, its exciting to me that we seem to developing more forward
momentum here. I personally think the way forward is a staged
transition from the in-nova EC2 API to the stackforge project, with
testing added to ensure that we are feature complete between the two.
I note that Soren disagrees with me here, but that's ok -- I'd like to
see us work through that as a team based on the merits.

So... It sounds like we have an EC2 sub team forming. How do we get
that group meeting to come up with a transition plan?

Michael

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 4:12 AM, Davanum Srinivas <dava...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Alex,

Very cool. thanks.

-- dims

On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 1:04 AM, Alexandre Levine
<alev...@cloudscaling.com> wrote:
Davanum,

Now that the picture with the both EC2 API solutions has cleared up
a bit, I
can say yes, we'll be adding the tempest tests and doing devstack
integration.

Best regards,
    Alex Levine

On 1/31/15 2:21 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Alexandre, Randy,

Are there plans afoot to add support to switch on stackforge/ec2-api
in devstack? add tempest tests etc? CI Would go a long way in
alleviating concerns i think.

thanks,
dims

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Bias, Randy <randy.b...@emc.com>
wrote:
As you know we have been driving forward on the stack forge
project and
it¹s our intention to continue to support it over time, plus
reinvigorate
the GCE APIs when that makes sense. So we¹re supportive of
deprecating
from Nova to focus on EC2 API in Nova.  I also think it¹s good for
these
APIs to be able to iterate outside of the standard release cycle.



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On 1/29/15, 4:01 PM, "Michael Still" <mi...@stillhq.com> wrote:

Hi,

as you might have read on openstack-dev, the Nova EC2 API
implementation is in a pretty sad state. I wont repeat all of those
details here -- you can read the thread on openstack-dev for detail.

However, we got here because no one is maintaining the code in Nova
for the EC2 API. This is despite repeated calls over the last 18
months (at least).

So, does the Foundation have a role here? The Nova team has
failed to
find someone to help us resolve these issues. Can the board perhaps
find resources as the representatives of some of the largest
contributors to OpenStack? Could the Foundation employ someone to
help
us our here?

I suspect the correct plan is to work on getting the stackforge
replacement finished, and ensuring that it is feature compatible
with
the Nova implementation. However, I don't want to preempt the design
process -- there might be other ways forward here.

I feel that a continued discussion which just repeats the last 18
months wont actually fix the situation -- its time to "break out" of
that mode and find other ways to try and get someone working on this
problem.

Thoughts welcome.

Michael

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Rackspace Australia

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