Mike Bayer <mba...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> I'm not entirely sure what you've said above actually prevents coders >> from relying on the constraints. Being careful about deleting all of the >> child rows before a parent is good practice. I have seen code like this >> in the past though: >> >> try: >> parent.delete() >> except ForeignKeyFailure: >> parent.children.delete() >> parent.delete() >> >> This means if you don't have the FK's, you may never delete the >> children. Is this a bug? YES. Is it super obvious that it is the wrong >> thing to do? No. > > So the point you’re making here is that, if foreign key constraints are > removed, poorly written code might silently fail. I’m glad we agree this is > an issue! It’s the only point I’m making. I apologize for my snark here. The above code is wrong, and I think it is obviously wrong. People working on this code should be familiar with SQLAlchemy basics (at least having read the ORM tutorial), and that includes the very easy to use features of relationship management. Even if we are dealing with a version of the above that does not use SQLAlchemy, it should be apparent that a DELETE should be emitted for the child rows whether or not they’ve been tested as existing, if we are deleting on the criteria of “parent_id”. Code like the above should ideally never get through review, and if code like that exists right now, it should be fixed. What foreign key guarantees get us for the above would be for the much more common case that someone emits a DELETE for the parent row without being at all aware that there are dependent rows present. That silent failure leaves those child rows as orphans which will lead to application failures when accessed, assuming the application also attempts to access the referenced parent. __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev