On 11/03/15 19:06 +0000, Tim Bell wrote:
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From: Stefano Maffulli [mailto:stef...@openstack.org]
Sent: 11 March 2015 03:16
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Avoiding regression in project governance

On Tue, 2015-03-10 at 15:23 -0700, James E. Blair wrote:
> The holy grail of this system would be the "suitable for production
> deployment" tag, but no one has figured out how to define it yet.

Are crazy ideas welcome in this phase?

I start with 2 below:

Preface: an idea circulates about visually displaying in a web page the
projects.yaml file and the tags in there. Visitors would be able to browse the 
list
of projects and sort, pick, search and find what they need from a nice
representation of the 'big tent'.

1) how about we pull the popularity of OpenStack projects as reported in the
User Survey and display such number on the page where we list the projects?
What if, together with the objective tags managed by TC and community at
large, we show also the number of known deployment as guidance?


I think we can make this work. Assuming more than N (to my mind > 5  or so) 
deployments report they are using project X, we can say that this is used in 
production/POC/... and the number of nodes/hypervisors/etc.

This makes it concrete and anonymous to avoid the fishing queries. It also allows our 
community to enter what they are doing in one place rather than answering multiple surveys. 
I am keen to avoid generic queries such as "How many hypervisors are installed for 
public clouds using Xen" but if we have an agreement that >5 avoids company 
identification, I feel this is feasible.

It does help address the "maturity" question concretely. If it's in prod in 200 
deployments, I would consider this to be reasonably mature. If there is only 1, I would 
worry.

I'm not convinced this is a fair metric. What if I tell you, there's
just 1 large deployment? or that there's just 1 deployment that has
been running the service for quite a bit?

It's true that the more deployments there are, the easier it is to
trust a project's maturity but I'd be worry about people considering
that the only metric and not giving new projects a chance.

Flavio

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