I’d like to suggest that the myriad wiki pages and spreadsheets for Third Party 
CI also be consolidated to a more manageable count.  Just looking for 
maintainers contact, you can find information (often conflicting) in 
Stackalytics, on the ThirdPartyDrivers page, on the Cinder PTL’s google doc and 
who knows where else for the Neutron maintainers.  Even finding which tests to 
run takes linking through a number of Cinder wiki pages.

The teams have done a great job documenting a process that started out as lore, 
but I think the beginning of L would be a great time to revisit and reorganize 
the documentation for clarity, conciseness and single locations (version 
controlled) of critical information.

--Rocky

From: Patrick East [mailto:patrick.e...@purestorage.com]
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 14:38
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: 
[cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Stefano Maffulli 
<stef...@openstack.org<mailto:stef...@openstack.org>> wrote:
On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 11:43 -0700, Mike Perez wrote:
> We've been talking about CI's for a year. We started talking about CI 
> deadlines
> in August. If you post a driver for Kilo, it was communicated that you're
> required to have a CI by the end of Kilo [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8]. This
> should've been known by your engineers regardless of when you submitted your
> driver.

Let's work to fix the CI bits for Liberty and beyond. I have the feeling
that despite your best effort to communicate deadlines, some quite
visible failure has happened.

I think the only failure is on the side of any driver maintainers who did not 
make the deadlines. From my perspective (as one of the driver maintainers who 
did setup a CI system and a developer working on Cinder) this whole process has 
been a success. The test coverage has sky rocketed for Cinder, driver 
maintainers are forced to be a bit more active in the community, and the code 
base (in theory) no longer has volume drivers in tree that we don't know if 
they actually work or not. This is, in my opinion, a huge win for the project.

You've been clear about Cinder's deadlines, I've been trying to add them
also to the weekly newsletter, too.

To the people whose drivers don't have their CI completed in time: what
do you suggest should change so that you won't miss the deadlines in the
future? How should the processes and tool be different so you'll be
successful with your OpenStack-based products?

For anyone who struggled with getting a CI system operational there are 
numerous resources at your disposal (all of which have been advertised in 
Cinder meetings and the #openstack-cinder IRC channel). There are three 
meetings every week where you can get help setting them up [1]. There are a few 
different Cinder developers who have set up their own CI systems and shared 
code/instructions [2][3]. I have seen those same devs supporting them via IRC 
and have enabled several other companies to successfully use their tools. 
Between these resources I don't think anyone who has actually showed up at the 
meetings, asked for help, and make a good faith effort to keep everyone in the 
loop and show progress failed to get their system online and keep their driver 
in Cinder.... its not a coincidence.

There are also efforts to provide an easier to use CI system that is shared 
with the OpenStack infra team [4]. I would recommend anyone who wants to help 
ease this process for new drivers/maintainers to help contribute to this 
effort. I think this is going to be the best route forward to ensure people 
have the tools they need to setup and operate a stable third party ci system.


1 - 
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#Weekly_Third_Party_meetings
2 - https://github.com/rasselin/os-ext-testing
3 - https://github.com/j-griffith/sos-ci
4 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139745/


-Patrick

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