On 02/04/15 20:31, Fox, Kevin M wrote:
I'm not sure how to feel about this... Its clever...

That's... unfortunate ;)

Ideally this would sound like something that is a natural fit for Heat's data model. The reason it's not is that config management tools like Puppet are less sophisticated than Heat in terms of their modelling - they only model the things that you want to change, and there's no way to reverse a change.

That's not really a criticism of Puppet, it's kind of inevitable that you can't represent the full complexity of a modern Linux system. TripleO initially tried to get around this by doing image replacement only, but it turns out that's too heavyweight to be practical. The real long-term fix, at least for the application part of a deployment, is most likely containers. However, we need to wait for the Kolla project to become mature before we can deploy OpenStack using containers in TripleO.


I started to respond to the rest of your comments, but I decided not to do so here, because this thread is about what we can/should do right now, for TripleO, in Kilo, with Heat already in feature freeze.

cheers,
Zane.

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