You may also find my explanation about the Big Tent helpful in this
interview with Niki Acosta and Jeff Dickey:
http://blogs.cisco.com/cloud/ospod-29-jay-pipes
Best,
-jay
On 06/16/2015 06:09 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote:
On 16/06/15 04:39 -0400, gordon chung wrote:
i won't speak to whether this confirms/refutes the usefulness of the
big tent.
that said, probably as a by-product of being in non-stop meetings with
sales/
marketing/managers for last few days, i think there needs to be better
definitions (or better publicised definitions) of what the goals of
the big
tent are. from my experience, they've heard of the big tent and they
are, to
varying degrees, critical of it. one common point is that they see it as
greater fragmentation to a process that is already too slow.
Not saying this is the final answer to all the questions but at least
it's a good place to start from:
https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/summit-videos/presentation/the-big-tent-a-look-at-the-new-openstack-projects-governance
That said, this is great feedback and we may indeed need to do a
better job to explain the big tent. That presentation, I believe, was
an attempt to do so.
Flavio
just giving my fly-on-the-wall view from the other side.
On 15/06/2015 6:20 AM, Joe Gordon wrote:
One of the stated problems the 'big tent' is supposed to solve is:
'The binary nature of the integrated release results in projects
outside
the integrated release failing to get the recognition they deserve.
"Non-official" projects are second- or third-class citizens which
can't get
development resources. Alternative solutions can't emerge in the
shadow of
the blessed approach. Becoming part of the integrated release,
which was
originally designed to be a technical decision, quickly became a
life-or-death question for new projects, and a political/community
minefield.' [0]
Meaning projects should see an uptick in development once they drop
their
second-class citizenship and join OpenStack. Now that we have been
living
in the world of the big tent for several months now, we can see if
this
claim is true.
Below is a list of the first few few projects to join OpenStack
after the
big tent, All of which have now been part of OpenStack for at least
two
months.[1]
* Mangum - Tue Mar 24 20:17:36 2015
* Murano - Tue Mar 24 20:48:25 2015
* Congress - Tue Mar 31 20:24:04 2015
* Rally - Tue Apr 7 21:25:53 2015
When looking at stackalytics [2] for each project, we don't see any
noticeably change in number of reviews, contributors, or number of
commits
from before and after each project joined OpenStack.
So what does this mean? At least in the short term moving from
Stackforge
to OpenStack does not result in an increase in development
resources (too
early to know about the long term). One of the three reasons for
the big
tent appears to be unfounded, but the other two reasons hold. The
only
thing I think this information changes is what peoples expectations
should
be when applying to join OpenStack.
[0] https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/resolutions/
20141202-project-structure-reform-spec.rst
[1] Ignoring OpenStackClent since the repos were always in
OpenStack it
just didn't have a formal home in the governance repo.
[2] h http://stackalytics.com/?module=magnum-group&metric=commits
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