Thanks everyone for your responses...

On 15/07/15 21:01, Doug Wiegley wrote:
That begins to looks like nova’s metadata tags and scheduler, which is a valid use case. The underpinnings of flavors could do this, but it’s not in the initial implementation.

doug

On Jul 15, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Kevin Benton <blak...@gmail.com <mailto:blak...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Wouldn't it be valid to assign flavors to groups of provider networks? e.g. a tenant wants to attach to a network that is wired up to a 40g router so he/she chooses a network of the "fat pipe" flavor.

Indeed.

Otherwise, why does 'flavor:network' exist at all in the current codebase?

As the code currently stands, 'flavor:network' appears to be consumed only by agent/linux/interface.py, with the logic that if the interface_driver setting is set to MetaInterfaceDriver, the interface driver class that is actually used for a particular network will be derived by using the network's 'flavor:network' value as a lookup key in the dict specified by the meta_flavor_driver_mappings setting.

Is that an intended part of the flavors design?

I hope it doesn't sound like I'm just complaining! My reason for asking these questions is that I'm working at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198439/ on a type of network that works through routing on each compute host instead of bridging, and two of the consequences of that are that

(1) there will not be L2 broadcast connectivity between the instances attached to such a network, whereas there would be with all existing Neutron network types

(2) the DHCP agent needs some changes to provide DHCP service on unbridged TAP interfaces.

Probably best here not to worry too much about the details. But, at a high level:

- there is an aspect of the network's behavior that needs to be portrayed in the UI, so that tenants/projects can know when it is appropriate to attach instances to that network

- there is an aspect of the network's implementation that the DHCP agent needs to be aware of, so that it can adjust accordingly.

I believe the flavor:network 'works', for these purposes, in the senses that it is portrayed in the UI, and that it is available to software components such as the DHCP agent. So I was wondering whether 'flavor:network' would be the correct location in principle for a value identifying this kind of network, according to the intention of the flavors enhancement.



On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Madhusudhan Kandadai <madhusudhan.openst...@gmail.com <mailto:madhusudhan.openst...@gmail.com>> wrote:



    On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Kyle Mestery
    <mest...@mestery.com <mailto:mest...@mestery.com>> wrote:

        On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Neil Jerram
        <neil.jer...@metaswitch.com
        <mailto:neil.jer...@metaswitch.com>> wrote:

            I've been reading available docs about the forthcoming
            Neutron flavors framework, and am not yet sure I
            understand what it means for a network.


        In reality, this is envisioned more for service plugins (e.g.
        flavors of LBaaS, VPNaaS, and FWaaS) than core neutron resources.

    Yes. Right put. This is for service plugins and its part of
    extensions than core network resources//


            Is it a way for an admin to provide a particular kind of
            network, and then for a tenant to know what they're
            attaching their VMs to?


        I'll defer to Madhu who is implementing this, but I don't
        believe that's the intention at all.

    Currently, an admin will be able to assign particular flavors,
    unfortunately, this is not going to be tenant specific flavors.


To be clear - I wasn't suggesting or asking for tenant-specific flavors. I only meant that a tenant might choose which network to attach a particular set of VMs to, depending on the flavors of the available networks. (E.g. as in Kevin's example above.)

    As you might have seen in the review, we are just using tenant_id
    to bypass the keystone checks implemented in base.py and it is
    not stored in the db as well. It is something to do in the future
    and documented the same in the blueprint.


            How does it differ from provider:network-type?  (I guess,
            because the latter is supposed to be for implementation
            consumption only - but is that correct?)


        Flavors are created and curated by operators, and consumed by
        API users.

    +1


Many thanks,
    Neil

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