On 04/08/15 10:50 +0200, Philipp Marek wrote:
If we end up using a DLM then we have to detect when the connection to
the DLM is lost on a node and stop all ongoing operations to prevent
data corruption.

It may not be trivial to do, but we will have to do it in any solution
we use, even on my last proposal that only uses the DB in Volume Manager
we would still need to stop all operations if we lose connection to the
DB.

Well, is it already decided that Pacemaker would be chosen to provide HA in
Openstack? There's been a talk "Pacemaker: the PID 1 of Openstack" IIRC.

I know that Pacemaker's been pushed aside in an earlier ML post, but IMO
there's already *so much* been done for HA in Pacemaker that Openstack
should just use it.

All HA nodes needs to participate in a Pacemaker cluster - and if one node
looses connection, all services will get stopped automatically (by
Pacemaker) - or the node gets fenced.


No need to invent some sloppy scripts to do exactly the tasks (badly!) that
the Linux HA Stack has been providing for quite a few years.


Yes, Pacemaker needs learning - but not more than any other involved
project, and there are already quite a few here, which have to be known to
any operator or developer already.


(BTW, LINBIT sells training for the Linux HA Cluster Stack - and yes,
I work for them ;)

With all due respect, because I know you come with the best of
intentions but, how is the above related to *anything* in this thread?

Hasn't this thread digressed enough to throw pacemaker in the
discussion just for the sake of it?

I don't mean to come off harsh but seriously, let's stop trying to
save the world in one thread and, instead, let's try to focus on what
the real problem that is being solved is and how we can do it.

The "to DLM or not" discussion was moved to a new thread (renamed from
this one) and this one should be used to discussed *cinder specific
issues* and hopefully come up with a solution - that Gorka has already
proposed - that would provide a better story for Cinder in the short
future.

Flavio

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