Hi Matthew,

On 11/08/15 01:14, Rich Megginson wrote:
> On 08/10/2015 07:46 AM, Matthew Mosesohn wrote:
>> Sorry to everyone for bringing up this old thread, but it seems we may
>> need more openstackclient/keystone experts to settle this.
>>
>> I'm referring to the comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207873/
>> Specifically comments from Richard Megginson and Gilles Dubreuil
>> indicating openstackclient behavior for v3 keystone API.
>>
>>
>> A few items seem to be under dispute:
>> 1 - Keystone should be able to accept v3 requests at
>> <http://keystone-server:5000/>http://keystone-server:5000/
> 
> I don't think so.  Keystone requires the version suffix "/v2.0" or "/v3".
> 

Yes, if the public endpoint is set without a version then the service
can deal with either version.

http://paste.openstack.org/raw/412819/

That is not true for the admin endpoint (authentication is already done,
the admin services deals only with tokens), at least for now, Keystone
devs are working on it.

>> 2 - openstackclient should be able to interpret v3 requests and append
>> "v3/" to OS_AUTH_URL=http://keystone-server.5000/ or rewrite the URL
>> if it is set as
>> OS_AUTH_URL=<http://keystone-server.5000/>http://keystone-server.5000/
> 
> It does, if it can determine from the given authentication arguments if
> it can do v3 or v2.0.
> 

It effectively does, again, assuming the path doesn't contain a version
number (x.x.x.x:5000)

>> 3 - All deployments require /etc/keystone/keystone.conf with a token
>> (and not simply use openrc for creating additional endpoints, users,
>> etc beyond keystone itself and an admin user)
> 
> No.  What I said about this issue was "Most people using
> puppet-keystone, and realizing Keystone resources on nodes that are not
> the Keystone node, put a /etc/keystone/keystone.conf on that node with
> the admin_token in it."
> 
> That doesn't mean the deployment requires /etc/keystone/keystone.conf. 
> It should be possible to realize Keystone resources on non-Keystone
> nodes by using ENV or openrc or other means.
> 

Agreed. Also keystone.conf is used only to bootstrap keystone
installation and create admin users, etc.


>>
>> I believe it should be possible to set v2.0 keystone OS_AUTH_URL in
>> openrc and puppet-keystone + puppet-openstacklib should be able to
>> make v3 requests sensibly by manipulating the URL.
> 
> Yes.  Because for the puppet-keystone resource providers, they are coded
> to a specific version of the api, and therefore need to be able to
> set/override the OS_IDENTITY_API_VERSION and the version suffix in the URL.
> 

No. To support V2 and V3, the OS_AUTH_URL must not contain any version
in order.

The less we deal with the version number the better!

>> Additionally, creating endpoints/users/roles shouldbe possible via
>> openrc alone.
> 
> Yes.
> 

Yes, the openrc variables are used, if not available then the service
token from the keystone.conf is used.

>> It's not possible to write single node tests that can demonstrate this
>> functionality, which is why it probably went undetected for so long.
> 
> And since this is supported, we need tests for this.

I'm not sure what's the issue besides the fact keystone_puppet doesn't
generate a RC file once the admin user has been created. That is left to
be done by the composition layer. Although we might want to integrate that.

If that issue persists, assuming the AUTH_URL is free for a version
number and having an openrc in place, we're going to need a bug number
to track the investigation.

>>
>> If anyone can speak up on these items, it could help influence the
>> outcome of this patch.
>>
>> Thank you for your time.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Matthew Mosesohn


Thanks,
Gilles

>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Rich Megginson <rmegg...@redhat.com
>> <mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 07/31/2015 07:18 AM, Matthew Mosesohn wrote:
>>
>>         Jesse, thanks for raising this. Like you, I should just track
>>         upstream
>>         and wait for full V3 support.
>>
>>         I've taken the quickest approach and written fixes to
>>         puppet-openstacklib and puppet-keystone:
>>         https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207873/
>>         https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207890/
>>
>>         and again to Fuel-Library:
>>         https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207548/1
>>
>>         I greatly appreciate the quick support from the community to
>>         find an
>>         appropriate solution. Looks like I'm just using a weird edge case
>>         where we're creating users on a separate node from where
>>         keystone is
>>         installed and it never got thoroughly tested, but I'm happy to fix
>>         bugs where I can.
>>
>>
>>     Most puppet deployments either realize all keystone resources on
>>     the keystone node, or drop an /etc/keystone/keystone.conf with
>>     admin token onto non-keystone nodes where additional keystone
>>     resources need to be realized.
>>
>>
>>
>>         -Matthew
>>
>>         On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Jesse Pretorius
>>         <jesse.pretor...@gmail.com <mailto:jesse.pretor...@gmail.com>>
>>         wrote:
>>
>>             With regards to converting all services to use Keystone v3
>>             endpoints, note
>>             the following:
>>
>>             1) swift-dispersion currently does not support consuming
>>             Keystone v3
>>             endpoints [1]. There is a patch merged to master [2] to
>>             fix that, but a
>>             backport to kilo is yet to be done.
>>             2) Each type (internal, admin, public) of endpoint created
>>             with the Keystone
>>             v3 API has its own unique id, unlike with the v2 API where
>>             they're all
>>             created with a single ID. This results in the keystone
>>             client being unable
>>             to read the catalog created via the v3 API when querying
>>             via the v2 API. The
>>             solution is to use the openstack client and to use the v3
>>             API but this
>>             obviously needs to be noted for upgrade impact and operators.
>>             3) When glance is setup to use swift as a back-end,
>>             glance_store is unable
>>             to authenticate to swift when the endpoint it uses is a v3
>>             endpoint. There
>>             is a review to master in progress [3] to fix this which is
>>             unlikely to make
>>             it into kilo.
>>
>>             We (the openstack-ansible/os-ansible-deployment project)
>>             are tracking these
>>             issues and doing tests to figure out all the bits. These
>>             are the bugs we've
>>             hit so far. Also note that there is a WIP patch to gate
>>             purely on Keystone
>>             v3 API's which is planned to become voting (hopefully) by
>>             the end of this
>>             cycle.
>>
>>             [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1468374
>>             [2] https://review.openstack.org/195131
>>             [3] https://review.openstack.org/193422
>>
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