Hi Matthew,

Finally I made it working, so now I have a dummy plugin.

Few questions, remarks:
- For me it was little hard to merge my weak knowledge from python packaging with the documentation for tempest plugins, do you mind if I push an example to github, and I add the link to that to the documentation.

- From this point the generation of the idempotent id is not clear for me. I was able to use the check_uuid.py, and as I used a virtenv, the script edited the /.tox/venv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dummyplugin// file. Would be good maybe to add an extra path option to the check_uuid.py to make it possible to edit the real source files in similar cases not the ones in the venv.

Regards
Lajos

On 09/11/2015 08:50 AM, Lajos Katona wrote:
Hi Matthew,

Thanks for the help, this helped a lot a start the work.

regards
Lajos

On 09/10/2015 04:13 PM, Matthew Treinish wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 02:56:31PM +0200, Lajos Katona wrote:
Hi,

I just noticed that from tag 6, the test plugin interface considered ready,
and I am eager to start to use it.
I have some questions:

If I understand well in the future the plugin interface will be moved to
tempest-lib, but now I have to import module(s) from tempest to start to use
the interface.
Is there a plan for this, I mean when the whole interface will be moved to
tempest-lib?
The only thing which will eventually move to tempest-lib is the abstract class
that defines the expected methods of a plugin class [1] The other pieces will
remain in tempest. Honestly this won't likely happen until sometime during
Mitaka. Also when it does move to tempest-lib we'll deprecate the tempest
version and keep it around to allow for a graceful switchover.

The rationale behind this is we really don't provide any stability guarantees
on tempest internals (except for a couple of places which are documented, like
this plugin class) and we want any code from tempest that's useful to external
consumers to really live in tempest-lib.

If I start to create a test plugin now (from tag 6), what should be the best
solution to do this?
I thought to create a repo for my plugin and add that as a subrepo to my
local tempest repo, and than I can easily import stuff from tempest, but I
can keep my test code separated from other parts of tempest.
Is there a better way of doing this?
To start I'd take a look at the documentation for tempest plugins:

http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/plugin.html

>From tempest's point of view a plugin is really just an entry point that points
to a class that exposes certain methods. So the Tempest plugin can live anywhere
as long as it's installed as an entry point in the proper namespace. Personally
I feel like including it as a subrepo in a local tempest tree is a bit strange,
but I don't think it'll cause any issues if you do that.

If there would be an example plugin somewhere, that would be the most
preferable maybe.
There is a cookiecutter repo in progress. [2] Once that's ready it'll let you
create a blank plugin dir that'll be ready for you to populate. (similar to the
devstack plugin cookiecutter that already exists)

For current examples the only project I know of that's using a plugin interface
is manila [3] so maybe take a look at what they're doing.

-Matt Treinish

[1]http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tempest/tree/tempest/test_discover/plugins.py#n26
[2]https://review.openstack.org/208389
[3]https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201955


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