Hiya,
On 7/11/2015 06:42, Sean Dague wrote:
On 11/06/2015 01:15 AM, Tony Breeds wrote:
Hello all,
I'll start by acknowledging that this is a big and complex issue and I
do not claim to be across all the view points, nor do I claim to be
particularly persuasive ;P
Having stated that, I'd like to seek constructive feedback on the idea of
keeping Juno around for a little longer. During the summit I spoke to a
number of operators, vendors and developers on this topic. There was some
support and some "That's crazy pants!" responses. I clearly didn't make it
around to everyone, hence this email.
Acknowledging my affiliation/bias: I work for Rackspace in the private
cloud team. We support a number of customers currently running Juno that are,
for a variety of reasons, challenged by the Kilo upgrade.
The upstream strategy has been make upgrades unexciting, and then folks
can move forward easily.
I would really like to unpack what those various reasons are that people
are trapped. Because figuring out why they feel that way is important
data in what needs to be done better on upgrade support and testing.
In reading this thread and Sean's post, I wonder out loud if we're
seeing something somewhat new to OpenStack here, but perhaps not to
other FOSS projects.
Specifically does Kilo happen to mark a point where a much larger number
of end users have adopted OpenStack and so we're starting to see a much
greater number of visible and mainstream users facing the "upgrade
difficulty question" ?
If Juno us the point where we suddenly got an order of magnitude more
deployments, then some point later you'll see an order of magnitude more
end users struggling with how/when to upgrade.
Really wish I could articulate this better, but perhaps the point can be
distilled from the ramble...
Cheers,
Hugh
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