Jay,

Agree and disagree. Containerize some COE daemons will facilitate the version 
upgrade and maintenance. However, I don’t think it is correct to blindly 
containerize everything unless there is an investigation performed to 
understand the benefits and costs of doing that. Quoted from Egor, the common 
practice in k8s is to containerize everything except kublet, because it seems 
it is just too hard to containerize everything. In the case of mesos, I am not 
sure if it is a good idea to move everything to containers, given the fact that 
it is relatively easy to manage and upgrade debian packages at Ubuntu. However, 
in the new CoreOS mesos bay [1], meos daemons will run at containers.

In summary, I think the correct strategy is to selectively containerize some 
COE daemons, but we don’t have to containerize *all* COE daemons.

[1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/mesos-bay-with-coreos

Best regards,
Hongbin

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Thanks Kai Qing, I filed a bp for mesos bay here 
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/mesos-in-container

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Kai Qiang Wu 
<wk...@cn.ibm.com<mailto:wk...@cn.ibm.com>> wrote:

Hi Jay,

For the Kubernetes COE container ways, I think @Hua Wang is doing that.

For the swarm COE, the swarm already has master and agent running in container

For the mesos, it still not have container work until now, Maybe someone 
already draft bp on it ? Not quite sure



Thanks

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Hi,

It is becoming more and more popular to use docker container run some 
applications, so what about leveraging this in Magnum?

What I want to do is that we can put all COE daemons running in docker 
containers, because now Kubernetes, Mesos and Swarm support running in docker 
container and there are already some existing docker images/dockerfiles which 
we can leverage.

So what about update all COE templates to use docker container to run COE 
daemons and maintain some dockerfiles for different COEs in Magnum? This can 
reduce the maintain effort for COE as if there are new versions and we want to 
upgrade, just update the dockerfile is enough. Comments?

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