To anyone who cares,

I made a try to use kombu 2.5 (specifically its reconnecting logic), with
oslo.messaging (which uses kombu's reconnecting logic after kilo). No
matter whether heartbeat is enabled or not, there are truly many problems.
NoneType Error [1], eg.
I have to manually backport several commits from upstream of kombu to
bypass those NoneType errors.


[1]
https://openstack.nimeyo.com/52206/openstack-nonetype-attribute-__getitem__-network-openvswitch

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Davanum Srinivas <dava...@gmail.com> wrote:

> apporc,
>
> I do a git blame on global-requirements.txt to figure that out. I'll let
> @sileht answer the other one :)
>
> -- dims
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 3:15 PM, me,apporc <appleorchard2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for pointing this out, dims. I didn't notice this process of
>> openstack. But i wonder how do you find the relationship between that bot's
>> commit and the global requirements commit.
>>
>> And sileht, from this commit
>> https://github.com/openstack/requirements/commit/c7f69afd6af56e8f7956c6fa0bea8fd776151fe6,
>> there seems not a robust reason to require kombu >= 3.0.7.
>> It's because ubuntu Trusty's default kombu version is 3.0.7, and it works
>> with amqp 1.4.0, right?
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Davanum Srinivas <dava...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Bot with No reason" <<< Not really accurate. The process in openstack
>>> is to update global requirements first and then bot proposes the update to
>>> different projects. So please look at
>>>
>>> https://github.com/openstack/requirements/commit/c7f69afd6af56e8f7956c6fa0bea8fd776151fe6
>>> for the commit which updated the global requirements
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> dims
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 1:07 PM, me,apporc <appleorchard2...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>
>>>> This kombu >=3.0.7 requirement is added in commit
>>>> 5b9fb6980220dbfa18bac4c3231d57efb493ebf0, which is from a Bot with no
>>>> reason.
>>>>
>>>>  As i see, we are directly requiring amqp >=1.4.0 in requirement.txt
>>>> from commit 0c954cffa2f3710acafa79f01b958a8955823640 on.
>>>> So maybe there is no need to require kombu >= 3.0.7 ?
>>>>
>>>> Another reason I am asking about this, in the latest centos 7 epel
>>>> repo, the versions of these two packages are :
>>>> python-kombu : 2.5.16-1.el7
>>>> python-amqp : 1.4.5-1.el7
>>>>
>>>> I have not test whether there are problems about heartbeat with this
>>>> version pair though.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Mehdi Abaakouk <sil...@sileht.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] seems just socket timeout issue, and admins can adjust those kernel
>>>>>> params themselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but if you trick kernel settings, like putting very low tcp
>>>>> keepalive values, you don't need to have/enable heartbeat.
>>>>>
>>>>> [2] and [3] truly a problem about the heartbeat implementation, but it
>>>>>> says
>>>>>> the fix is a part of py-amqp 1.4.0, and the dependency with kombu was
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> specified.
>>>>>> [4] is a bug of kombu's autoretry method which is said to be fixed in
>>>>>> kombu
>>>>>> 3.0.0, it is not directly related to heartbeat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I can remember, this is because oslo.messaging doesn't
>>>>> really require py-amqp but only kombu, so to ensure kombu depends of
>>>>> py-amqp 1.4.0 we have to depends on kombu 3.0.7 (that have amqp>=1.4.0 in
>>>>> its requirements I guess).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Mehdi Abaakouk
>>>>> mail: sil...@sileht.net
>>>>> irc: sileht
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> apporc
>>>>
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