Chris Dent wrote:
[...]
Observing this thread and "the trouble with names"[1] one I get
concerned that we're trending in the direction of expecting
projects/servers/APIs to be done and perfect before they will ever
be OpenStack. This, of course, runs entirely contrary to the spirit
of open source where people release a solution to their itch and
people join with them to make it better.

If we start thinking of projects as needing to have "production-grade"
implementations and APIs as needing to be stable and correct from
the start we're backing ourselves into corners that are very difficult
to get out of, distracting ourselves from the questions we ought to be
asking, and putting barriers in the way of doing new but necessary
stuff and evolving.

I certainly didn't intend to mean that projects need to have a final API or perfect implementation before they can join the tent. I meant that projects need to have a reference implementation using open source tools that has a chance of being used in production one day. Imagine a project which uses sqlite in testing but requires Oracle DB to achieve full functionality or scaling beyond one user: the sqlite backend would be a token open backend for testing purposes but real usage would need you to buy into proprietary options. That would certainly be considered "open core": a project that pretends to be open but requires proprietary technology to be "really used".

Now it's not that clear cut and a lot of things fall in the grey area: on one side you have proprietary backends that may offer better performance -- at which point should we consider that "better performance" means nobody would seriously use the open source backend ? On the other side you have corner cases like Poppy where the "proprietary service" it plugs into is difficult to replicate since it's as much physical infrastructure than software.

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Thierry Carrez (ttx)

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