> I vote to abandon it. Let's do not break existing plugins, and do not > add *undo* tasks for plugin developers. If they want to configure > network, they'll ask it explicitly.
+1 to this gentleman. It's safe to add wildcards only to tasks that were moved from pre/post deployment stages, which were executed everywhere anyway. Regards, Alex On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Bulat Gaifullin <bgaiful...@mirantis.com> wrote: > > > On 19 Feb 2016, at 17:09, Igor Kalnitsky <ikalnit...@mirantis.com> > wrote: > > > > Kyrylo G. wrote: > >> So who is voting for the path to be abandoned? > > > > I vote to abandon it. Let's do not break existing plugins, and do not > > add *undo* tasks for plugin developers. If they want to configure > > network, they'll ask it explicitly. > > > > > > Kyrylo G. wrote: > >> By the way, there is already a task running by the wildcard: > >> > https://github.com/openstack/fuel-library/blob/master/deployment/puppet/osnailyfacter/modular/fuel_pkgs/tasks.yaml#L4 > > > > Yes, exactly, but the thing is that our original task for setuping > > repos was executed on all nodes before, including ones provided by > > plugins. Making it executing on core nodes only may break plugins that > > rely on it. So generally, it's about backward compatibility. > > > > > > Bulat G. wrote: > >> This tasks should run on all nodes and it does not matter, the node > >> has role from plugin or core-role. > > > > Nope, they shouldn't. Why do I need to install the following packages > > > > 'screen', > > 'tmux', > > 'htop', > > 'tcpdump', > > 'strace', > > 'fuel-misc', > > 'man-db', > > 'fuel-misc', > > 'fuel-ha’ > > > It is big problem? > > > if I have no plans to use them? As a deployer engineer, I'd prefer to > > keep my role as clear as possible, and decide what to install in my > > own way. > > IMO: The plugin developer wants to install additional applications to > extend functionality, It do not want configure low-level things, like > specify some banch of task for configure network, configure repositories > etc. > How can we manage new node if network is not configured or fuel-agent is > not installed? > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Bulat Gaifullin > > <bgaiful...@mirantis.com> wrote: > >> +1 to use wildcards for common tasks like netconfig and setup > repositories. > >> This tasks should run on all nodes and it does not matter, the node has > role > >> from plugin or core-role. > >> In my opinion we should one approach for basic configuration of node. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Bulat Gaifullin > >> Mirantis Inc. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 19 Feb 2016, at 13:36, Kyrylo Galanov <kgala...@mirantis.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> So who is voting for the path to be abandoned? > >> > >> By the way, there is already a task running by the wildcard: > >> > https://github.com/openstack/fuel-library/blob/master/deployment/puppet/osnailyfacter/modular/fuel_pkgs/tasks.yaml#L4 > >> However, it this case it might work with plugins. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Kyrylo > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 1:09 AM, Igor Kalnitsky < > ikalnit...@mirantis.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hey Kyrylo, > >>> > >>> As it was mentioned in the review: you're about to break roles defined > >>> by plugins. That's not good move, I believe. > >>> > >>> Regarding 'exclude' directive, I have no idea what you're talking > >>> about. We don't support it now, and, anyway, there should be no > >>> difference between roles defined by plugins and core roles. > >>> > >>> - Igor > >>> > >>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Kyrylo Galanov < > kgala...@mirantis.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> We are about to switch to wildcards instead of listing all groups in > >>>> tasks > >>>> explicitly [0]. > >>>> This change must make deployment process more obvious for developers. > >>>> However, it might lead to confusion when new groups are added either > by > >>>> plugin or fuel team in future. > >>>> > >>>> As mention by Bogdan, it is possible to use 'exclude' directive to > >>>> mitigate > >>>> the risk. > >>>> Any thoughts on the topic are appreciated. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> [0] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273596/ > >>>> > >>>> Best regards, > >>>> Kyrylo > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > __________________________________________________________________________ > >>>> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > >>>> Unsubscribe: > >>>> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > >>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >>>> > >>> > >>> > __________________________________________________________________________ > >>> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > >>> Unsubscribe: > openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________________________________ > >> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > >> Unsubscribe: > openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >> > >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________________________________ > >> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > >> Unsubscribe: > openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >> > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > > Unsubscribe: > openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >
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