Fuelers, As Simon said, we already have a log centralisation solution for MOS delivered as a Fuel plugins known as StackLight / LMA toolset. And so objectively, there is no need to have log management in Nailgun anymore. To go one step further we suggested several times to have a StackLight agent installed on the Fuel master node to also collect and centralise those logs. There is a little bit of a chicken and egg problem to resolve but I think it is worth a try to have that nailed down in the roadmap for Fuel 10. Cheers - Patrick On 11 March 2016 at 10:07:28, Simon Pasquier (spasqu...@mirantis.com) wrote:
Hello Roman, On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Roman Prykhodchenko <m...@romcheg.me> wrote: Fuelers, I remember we’ve discussing this topic in our couloirs before but I’d like to bring that discussion to a more official format. Let me state a few reasons to do this: - Log management code in Nailgun is overcomplicated - Working with logs on big scale deployments is barely possible given the current representation - Due to overcomplexity and ineffectiveness of the code we always get recurring bugs like [1]. That eats tons of time to resolve. - There are much better specialized tools, say Logstash [2], that can deal with logs much more effectively. There may be more reasons bus I think even the already mentioned ones are enough to think about the following proposal: - Remove Logs tab from Fuel Web UI - Remove logs support from Nailgun - Create mechanism that allows to configure different log management software, say Logstash, Loggly, etc - Choose a default software to install and provide a plugin for it from the box This is what the LMA/StackLight plugins [1][2] are meant for. No need to develop anything new. And I'm +1 with the removal of log management from Fuel. As you said, it can't scale... [1] http://fuel-plugin-lma-collector.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ [2] http://fuel-plugin-elasticsearch-kibana.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ References 1. https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1553170 2. https://www.elastic.co/products/logstash - romcheg __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
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