On Mar 15, 2016, at 10:59, Tim Bell <tim.b...@cern.ch> wrote: > The risk I see is that we are missing input to the development process in > view of the complexity of submitting those requirements. Clearly, setting the > bar too low means that there is no clear requirement statement etc. However, > I think the combination of tools and assumption of knowledge of the process > means that we are missing the opportunity for good quality input. > > Many of these are low hanging fruit improvements which could be used to bring > developers into the community if we can find a good way to get the input and > match it with the resource to implement.
Agreed. I think Wishlist bugs have had value but I'll admit the value is small compared to the total number of Wishlist bugs. The thing I like about them is that they're easy for anyone to open and people can pile on and say "me too" so we get some indication of how much interest there is in a feature/idea (the launchpad bug heat increases). I have seen this work well in a couple of cases where I don't think we could have found out people were interested in something otherwise. Digging up examples: * Several novaclient users would like it if tenant ids were validated against keystone [1] (Look how many duplicates and the bug heat!). It has since evolved into a spec [2] and blueprint [3]. I didn't think this would be as popular as it is, but I know it from the number of bugs people have opened that I have marked as duplicates of a Wishlist bug. * Several nova users are interested in the capability to detach the root device volume of an instance, when in shutoff state [4]. This one, I had no idea about until I saw the bug. I think the spec process is heavy for a person who just wants to communicate a feature ask and it requires that other people be able to find that spec to +1 it before it potentially goes into the abandoned state once spec freeze happens. I can't imagine users finding a spec being that they're not searchable. I feel like you have to "be in the know" to vote on a spec. With the Wishlist bugs, users can search to find things they're interested in and add comments. Triagers can see duplicates and mark them as such, which bubbles up popular asks via bug heat. It's a lot of manual work, though. -melanie [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1118066 [2] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92507/ [3] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/validate-project-with-keystone [4] https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1396965
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