Hi all,

We discussed this in our last team meeting, and we were in disagreement. Some 
of us preferred option #1, others preferred option #2. I would suggest to leave 
this topic to the design summit so that our team members would have more times 
to research each option. If we are in disagreement again, I will let the core 
team to vote (hopefully we will have all the core team in the design summit).

Best regards,
Hongbin

From: Guz Egor [mailto:guz_e...@yahoo.com]
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+1 for "#1: Mesos and Marathon". Most deployments that I am aware of has this 
setup. Also we can provide several line instructions how to run Chronos on top 
of Marathon.

honestly I don't see how #2 will work, because Marathon installation is 
different from Aurora installation.

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Egor

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#2 seems more flexible, and if it be proved it can "make the SAME mesos bay 
applied with mutilple frameworks." It would be great. Which means, one mesos 
bay should support multiple frameworks.




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Hongbin Lu ---11/04/2016 12:06:07 am---My preference is #1, but I don’t feel 
strong to exclude #2. I would agree to go with #2 for now and

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My preference is #1, but I don’t feel strong to exclude #2. I would agree to go 
with #2 for now and switch back to #1 if there is a demand from users. For 
Ton’s suggestion to push Marathon into the introduced configuration hook, I 
think it is a good idea.

Best regards,
Hongbin

From: Ton Ngo [mailto:t...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: April-10-16 11:24 AM
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I would agree that #2 is the most flexible option, providing a well defined 
path for additional frameworks such as Kubernetes and Swarm.
I would suggest that the current Marathon framework be refactored to use this 
new hook, to serve as an example and to be the supported
framework in Magnum. This will also be useful to users who want other 
frameworks but not Marathon.
Ton,

Adrian Otto ---04/08/2016 08:49:52 PM---On Apr 8, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Hongbin Lu 
<hongbin...@huawei.com<mailto:hongbin...@huawei.com>> wrote:

From: Adrian Otto <adrian.o...@rackspace.com<mailto:adrian.o...@rackspace.com>>
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On Apr 8, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Hongbin Lu 
<hongbin...@huawei.com<mailto:hongbin...@huawei.com>> wrote:

Hi team,
I would like to give an update for this thread. In the last team, we discussed 
several options to introduce Chronos to our mesos bay:
1. Add Chronos to the mesos bay. With this option, the mesos bay will have two 
mesos frameworks by default (Marathon and Chronos).
2. Add a configuration hook for users to configure additional mesos frameworks, 
such as Chronos. With this option, Magnum team doesn’t need to maintain extra 
framework configuration. However, users need to do it themselves.
This is my preference.

Adrian
3. Create a dedicated bay type for Chronos. With this option, we separate 
Marathon and Chronos into two different bay types. As a result, each bay type 
becomes easier to maintain, but those two mesos framework cannot share 
resources (a key feature of mesos is to have different frameworks running on 
the same cluster to increase resource utilization).Which option you prefer? Or 
you have other suggestions? Advices are welcome.

Best regards,
Hongbin

From: Guz Egor [mailto:guz_e...@yahoo.com]
Sent: March-28-16 12:19 AM
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Jay,

just keep in mind that Chronos can be run by Marathon.

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Egor
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Yes, that's exactly what I want to do, adding dcos cli and also add Chronos to 
Mesos Bay to make it can handle both long running services and batch jobs.

Thanks,

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Michal Rostecki 
<michal.roste...@gmail.com<mailto:michal.roste...@gmail.com>> wrote:

On 03/25/2016 07:57 AM, Jay Lau wrote:

Hi Magnum,

The current mesos bay only include mesos and marathon, it is better to
enhance the mesos bay have more components and finally enhance it to a
DCOS which focus on container service based on mesos.

For more detail, please refer to
https://docs.mesosphere.com/getting-started/installing/installing-enterprise-edition/

The mesosphere now has a template on AWS which can help customer deploy
a DCOS on AWS, it would be great if Magnum can also support it based on
OpenStack.

I filed a bp here
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/mesos-dcos , please show
your comments if any.

--
Thanks,

Jay Lau (Guangya Liu)

Sorry if I'm missing something, but isn't DCOS a closed source software?

However, the "DCOS cli"[1] seems to be working perfectly with Marathon and 
Mesos installed by any way if you configure it well. I think that the thing 
which can be done in Magnum is to make the experience with "DOCS" tools as easy 
as possible by using open source components from Mesosphere.

Cheers,
Michal

[1] https://github.com/mesosphere/dcos-cli

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