Hello, Sébastien,

There is OPNFV summit in Berlin Jun 20~23, 2016, as currently Kingbird is still 
a part of OPNFV multisite project, how about to have a design summit there, to 
discuss the features and design needed, and also discuss whether to move 
Kingbird to OpenStack community thread?

http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/opnfv-summit


Best Regards
Chaoyi Huang ( Joe Huang )


-----Original Message-----
From: joehuang 
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 11:20 AM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Zhipeng 
Huang; Dimitri Mazmanov; 'Ashish Singh'
Cc: opnfv-tech-disc...@lists.opnfv.org
Subject: RE: [openstack-dev] [Cinder][Ceph][Kingbird][Tricircle][Smaug]Build a 
multisite disaster recovery "stack"

Hello, Sébastien,

Thank you very much that you are interested in Kingbird, which is part of OPNFV 
Multisite project. Most of discussion was held in OPNFV thread. Maybe it's good 
to discuss whether to move the all activities to OpenStack thread.

And Tricircle is not only focus in NFV area. In fact, for V1 Tricircle (usually 
called OpenStack cascading, some Nova driver, Cinder Diver / L2/L3 agent were 
added to OpenStack ) is first used in public cloud, like Huawei Enterprise 
Cloud for China enterprises, and DT OTC cloud, and some other public/private 
clouds not mentioned here, they are not NFV area. The open source developed V2 
Tricircle, which is fully decoupled from OpenStack, provides an OpenStack API 
gateway and networking automation to allow multiple OpenStack instances, 
spanning in one site or multiple sites to be managed as a single OpenStack 
cloud.

The slides[1] may help you understand Tricircle, and the video[2] in the Austin 
summit can help you the difference between Tricircle and Kingbird and how they 
work together under different scenario.
[1] 
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1UQWeAMIJgJsWw-cyz9R7NvcAuSWUnKvaZFXLfRAQ6fI/edit?usp=sharing
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I32rUlLFsUI

Best Regards
Chaoyi Huang ( Joe Huang )


-----Original Message-----
From: Sébastien Han [mailto:han.sebast...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 2:15 AM
To: Zhipeng Huang
Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); 
opnfv-tech-disc...@lists.opnfv.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder][Ceph][Kingbird][Tricircle][Smaug]Build a 
multisite disaster recovery "stack"

Thanks for raising this. However we have "good" reasons to not talk about Smaug 
and Tricircle.
Those 2 are really focus on NFV use cases, where in our scenario we "only" save 
Cinder blocks and Glance images.
We do not guarantee the state of the VMs not want to replicate it.

We really aim for a basic approach, so we start small with Kingbird in order to 
address our first multi-site use case.
Perhaps in the future we will need Smaug and Tricircle but we are not there yet.

We will start contributing to Kingbird pretty soon and see how that goes.
Thanks!

--
Regards,
Sébastien Han.


On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Zhipeng Huang <zhipengh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I was referred to this talk
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWFYC6W71tY by a colleague, and really 
> think several projects should collaborate on this subject.
>
> Two projects that are missed from the talk but would be helpful are 
> Smaug[1] and Tricircle[2]. Smaug provides data protection services for 
> VMs, whereas Tricircle provides an single API entrance for multisite 
> OpenStack management (cross L2/L3 networking, volume
> migration/replication)
>
> I think these projects could work together to address the issue :)
>
> [1]https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Smaug
> [2]https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tricircle
>
> --
> Zhipeng (Howard) Huang
>
> Standard Engineer
> IT Standard & Patent/IT Prooduct Line
> Huawei Technologies Co,. Ltd
> Email: huangzhip...@huawei.com
> Office: Huawei Industrial Base, Longgang, Shenzhen
>
> (Previous)
> Research Assistant
> Mobile Ad-Hoc Network Lab, Calit2
> University of California, Irvine
> Email: zhipe...@uci.edu
> Office: Calit2 Building Room 2402
>
> OpenStack, OPNFV, OpenDaylight, OpenCompute Aficionado

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