Does it mean that ceph as a backend for this feature is supposed to
provide an API which allows to specify the name of each cloned image?

V.

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 7:17 PM, yang, xing <xing.y...@dell.com> wrote:
> The new image name should be volume-uuid if you don’t change 
> volume_name_template in cinder.conf.  The display_name field will be None for 
> the new volume.
>
> Xing
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Victor Denisov [vdeni...@mirantis.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:23 PM
> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
> Cc: Jason Dillaman
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] consistency groups in ceph
>
> How are the names chosen for those new cloned images?
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:04 AM, yang, xing <xing.y...@dell.com> wrote:
>> Hi Victor,
>>
>> Yes, you are right.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Xing
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Victor Denisov [vdeni...@mirantis.com]
>> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 7:13 PM
>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
>> Cc: Jason Dillaman
>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] consistency groups in ceph
>>
>> I just realized that probably we create images from individual
>> snapshots of that consistency group and add those images to the new
>> consistency group.
>> Am I correct?
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Victor Denisov <vdeni...@mirantis.com> wrote:
>>> Or probably when we clone a consistency group from a snapshot we
>>> should clone all the images in this consistency group?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Victor Denisov <vdeni...@mirantis.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Xing,
>>>>
>>>> One more question. You mentioned that there is an operation: create
>>>> consistency group from a snap shot.
>>>> Does it mean that an image can be a member of several consistency groups?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> V.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:21 AM, yang, xing <xing.y...@dell.com> wrote:
>>>>> You cannot remove a volume completely if there is still a group snapshot. 
>>>>>  You can remove the volume from the group but you can’t delete the volume 
>>>>> because it still has snapshot dependent on it.  So if you want to 
>>>>> completely remove a volume that is in a group, you can delete the group 
>>>>> snapshot first which will delete the individual snapshot.  After that you 
>>>>> can remove the volume from the group and delete the volume.
>>>>>
>>>>> More comments inline below.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Xing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: Victor Denisov [vdeni...@mirantis.com]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 12:04 AM
>>>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
>>>>> Cc: Jason Dillaman
>>>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] consistency groups in ceph
>>>>>
>>>>> One more question. What is the expected behavior if you remove a
>>>>> volume completely?
>>>>> [Xing] You cannot remove the volume completely (delete volume won't 
>>>>> succeed) if there is still a group snapshot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should the group snapshot removed first? Should the volume snapshot be
>>>>> removed from the group snapshot?
>>>>> [Xing] Yes, you should delete the group snapshot first and that will 
>>>>> delete the volume snapshot as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should we keep the snapshot even if the image doesn't exist anymore?
>>>>> [Xing] You cannot delete the image (volume) if there is still a snapshot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Victor.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 7:02 AM, yang, xing <xing.y...@dell.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Victor,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please see my answers inline below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Newton, we added support for Generic Volume Groups.  See doc below.  
>>>>>> CGs will be migrated to Generic Volume Groups gradually.  Drivers should 
>>>>>> not implement CGs any more.  Instead, it can add CG support using 
>>>>>> Generic Volume Group interfaces.  I'm working on a dev doc to explain 
>>>>>> how to do this and will send an email to the mailing list when I'm done. 
>>>>>>  The Generic Volume Group interface is very similar to CG interface, 
>>>>>> except that the Generic Volume Group requires an additional Group Type 
>>>>>> parameter to be created.  Using Group Type, CG can be a special type of 
>>>>>> Generic Volume Group.  Please feel free to grab me on Cinder IRC if you 
>>>>>> have any questions.  My IRC handle is xyang or xyang1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide/blockstorage-groups.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Xing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>> From: Victor Denisov [vdeni...@mirantis.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 11:29 PM
>>>>>> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
>>>>>> Cc: Jason Dillaman
>>>>>> Subject: [openstack-dev] [cinder] consistency groups in ceph
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm working on consistency groups feature in ceph.
>>>>>> My question is about what kind of behavior does cinder expect from
>>>>>> storage backends.
>>>>>> I'm particularly interested in what happens to consistency groups
>>>>>> snapshots when I remove an image from the group:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's imagine I have a consistency group called CG. I have images in
>>>>>> the consistency group:
>>>>>> Im1, Im2, Im3, Im4.
>>>>>> Let's imagine we have snapshots of this consistency group:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CGSnap1
>>>>>> CGSnap2
>>>>>> CGSnap3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Snapshots of individual images in a consistency group snapshot I will 
>>>>>> call
>>>>>> CGSnap2Im1 - Snapshot of image 1 from consistency group snapshot 2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Qustion 1:
>>>>>> If consistency group CG has 4 images: Im1, Im2, Im3, Im4.
>>>>>> Can CGSnap1 have more images than it already has: Im1, Im2, Im3, Im4, 
>>>>>> Im5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can CGSnap1 have less images than it already has: Im1, Im2, Im3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Xing]  Once a snapshot is taken from a CG, it can no longer be changed. 
>>>>>>  It is a point-in-time copy.  CGSnap1 cannot be modified.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Question 2:
>>>>>> If we remove image2 from the consistency group. Does it mean that
>>>>>> snapshots of this image should be removed from all the CGSnaps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Example:
>>>>>> We are removing Im2.
>>>>>> CGSnaps look like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CGSnap1 - CGSnap1Im1, CGSnap1Im2, CGSnap1Im3
>>>>>> CGSnap2 - CGSnap2Im1, CGSnap2Im2, CGSnap2Im3, CGSnap3Im4
>>>>>> CGSnap3 - CGSnap3Im1, CGSnap3Im2, CGSnap3Im3, CGSnap3Im4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What happens to snapshots: CGSnap1Im2,CGSnap2Im2, CGSnap3Im2? Do we
>>>>>> remove them, do we keep them. Is it important what we do to them at
>>>>>> all?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Xing] If your CG contains 4 volumes when you take the snapshot of the 
>>>>>> CG, the resulting CGSnap should be associated with 4 snapshots 
>>>>>> corresponding to the 4 volumes.  If you add more volumes to the CG or 
>>>>>> remove volumes from CG after CGSnap was taken, it should not affect 
>>>>>> CGSnap.  It will only affect CG snapshots that you take in the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Victor.
>>>>>>
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