On 07/12/16 14:29 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Dolph Mathews wrote:[...] I think it honestly reflects our current breakdown of contributors & collaboration. The artificial scarcity model only helps a vocal minority with cross-project focus, and just results in odd meeting times for the majority of projects that don't hold primetime meeting slots.While I don't think we should do away with meetings rooms, if a project wants to hold meetings at a convenient time in their normal channel, I think that's fine. Meeting conflicts will always exist. Major conflicts will be resolved without the additional pressure of artificial scarcity.I tend to agree with that. Like I said in my intro, we may be past the point where the artificial scarcity model is hurting us more than it helps us. So how about: - we enable an #openstack-meeting-5 to instantly relieve scheduling pressure - we allow teams to hold meetings in their project channel if they want to (and show them all on the meeting agenda through the irc-meetings repo) as long as the channel is logged - we still generally recommend to use meeting rooms whenever possible, so that you can benefit from outside presence and easy mentions/pings - we will proactively add additional meeting rooms when the resource becomes scarce again Options: - Once the change is in place, we could also limit official meeting room usage to official projects (since non-official projects can hold a meeting in their own room and still have it mentioned on the agenda) - If we remove artificial scarcity, we could discontinue the #openstack-meeting-cp channel (which was created to facilitate the scheduling of cross-project temporary meetings) and just tell cross-project initiatives to use the regular channels Comments, thoughts ?
All the above sounds good although, I'm honestly starting to consider that we should just encourage meetings to be held in channels and use `#openstack-dev` for quick pings and invites. I normally lurk in several meeting channels and although I am indeed pingged sometimes, I feel like the same could be achieved by just pinging me on #openstack-dev We can still list these meetings in a central repo. One downside that I see is that the chance for overlaps is higher, which may be a problem for folks that participate in several meetings. Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco
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