Mark is right, the multi region approach, surely simplifies a lot the 
complexity of your deployment. Unless it is a needed feature for you to see 
multi hypervisor resources in a single view. All the rest - even though with 
additional complications - including multi "region" heat templates, multi 
region lbaas etc (using vpn across the regions), should work out.

Again, it all depends on your requirements :)

iFede - Fede's mobile edition

> Il giorno 21 set 2015, alle ore 22:13, Mark Voelker <mvoel...@vmware.com> ha 
> scritto:
> 
> Ignazio,
> 
>> I know there is a nova driver for vmware.
>> I' like to know if glance, heat, ceilometer etc etc work with vmware.
> 
> 
> There are VMware drivers for Nova, Neutron (NSX and DVS, though the latter 
> supports far fewer features), Neutron LBaaS, Cinder, and Glance.  Heat and 
> Ceilometer also work fine.  You can find configuration guides here:
> 
> http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/vmware-vmdk-driver.html
> 
> http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/vmware.html
> 
> http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/vmware-glance-backend.html
> 
> http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/networking-plugin-vmware.html
> 
> http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/networking-plugin-nsx.html
> 
>> As far is neutron is concerned, in a scenario where there are kvm and vmware 
>> nodes, must I have an nsx multihypervisor solution ?
>> Must I insall nsx componenents on kvm nodes (a modified ovs version  for 
>> kvm) ?
>> On vmware must I install the vmware nsx or the multihypervisor version ?
> 
> Not necessarily.  A common tactic for dealing with differing hypervisors (or 
> for that matter, different networking or perhaps even storage solutions) is 
> to deploy them into two separate regions: one for KVM and one for ESX.  If 
> you’re not familiar with the regions concept in OpenStack, have a look here:
> 
> http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/scaling.html
> 
> Essentially since these are separate API endpoints, you can have very 
> different capabilities in each without having to worry about mixing and 
> matching solutions.  So essentially you might have one region with ESX 
> hypervisors, NSX for vSphere networking, and vSAN (or any other VMDK storage) 
> for storage.  In the other region you might have KVM hypervisors with OVS for 
> networking and NFS for storage.  Be aware that users must target their API 
> calls to one region or the other though (since they are separate endpoints), 
> and logical networks typically won’t stretch between regions.  Regions are 
> often thought of as a construct for geographically diverse datacenters, but 
> also work well as a means of segregation within a single DC.
> 
> At the risk of being accused of advertising on a mailer alias (=p), since you 
> appear to have an interest in the VMware hypervisor and network stack you may 
> want to have a look at the VMware Integrated OpenStack distribution:
> 
> http://www.vmware.com/products/openstack/
> 
> Other distributions (including I believe Mirantis and HP) also offer support 
> for VMware underpinnings:
> 
> http://docs.hpcloud.com/#commercial/GA1/1.1commercial.install-GA-esx.html
> https://www.mirantis.com/partners/mirantis-technology-partners/mirantis-partners-vmware/
> 
> At Your Service,
> 
> Mark T. Voelker
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 1:44 PM, Ignazio Cassano <ignaziocass...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> We would like to provide cloud infrastracture  multi hypervosor with sdn, 
>> multi tenancy, orchestration and self provisioning.
>> I think openstack with kvm is a good  start point but we have  hunderds 
>> applications on vmware.
>> A good compromise could be kvm and vmware with openstack but I am not sure 
>> it is a good idea because vmware seems to me limited in this scenario.
>> 
>> Il giorno 21/set/2015 19:18, "Federico Michele Facca" 
>> <federico.fa...@create-net.org> ha scritto:
>> there is no a proper answer to your question (expecially if you don't 
>> provide a bit of a context :) i.e. 
>> what are you trying to achieve? what are your constraints?)
>> 
>> In general, I doubt you can do many of the things you can do with OpenStack 
>> using vCenter, and probably also with vCloud... (and the other way around, 
>> there are things you can do with vCloud, you cannot do today with OpenStack) 
>> on the other hand, by pluging vCenter in OpenStack you can do many things 
>> that only vCenter can't achieve :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Ignazio Cassano <ignaziocass...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Many thanks Federico...
>> So the question is: why should I use openstack with vmware ?
>> Il giorno 21/set/2015 18:34, "Federico Michele Facca" 
>> <federico.fa...@create-net.org> ha scritto:
>> Hi Ignazio,
>> I am not the greatest expert in my team on the topic, so there my be some 
>> mistakes (anyone feel free to correct :)), read my reply inline
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Ignazio Cassano <ignaziocass...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Hi all, I' would like to know which openstack community edition components 
>> work with vmware.
>> I know there is a nova driver for vmware.
>> 
>> 
>> correct, basically it will act as a "proxy" toward vCenter
>> 
>> I' like to know if glance, heat, ceilometer etc etc work with vmware.
>> 
>> AFAIK Heat as no real dependency, so no issue. Ceilometer, we haven't 
>> tested, but any implementation may reflect the fact that OS services for 
>> VMWare are proxies (i.e. it will see whatever is on the other side like a 
>> huge compute or a huge cinder)
>> 
>> About glance you may have some limitations, since it supports so far (unless 
>> anything changed in Liberty) a single backend. actually we had issues in 
>> booting a vmware volume from an image (using swift as glance backend - it 
>> should work with no issue using the vmware storage, but then I guess you 
>> lose the multi hypervisor support).
>> 
>> 
>> As far is neutron is concerned, in a scenario where there are kvm and vmware 
>> nodes, must I have an nsx multihypervisor solution ?
>> 
>> 
>> I think you can use other drivers as well (actually we developed one for a 
>> customer). Or nova-network.
>> 
>> Must I insall nsx componenents on kvm nodes (a modified ovs version  for 
>> kvm) ?
>> 
>> we didn't go for NSX solution, but I guess so.
>> On vmware must I install the vmware nsx or the multihypervisor version ?
>> 
>> 
>> yes multihpervisor one... I know there were rumors about an opens source 
>> release, but I hadn't any update on that.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Federico
>> Regards
>> Ignazio
>> 
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