Mark is right, the multi region approach, surely simplifies a lot the complexity of your deployment. Unless it is a needed feature for you to see multi hypervisor resources in a single view. All the rest - even though with additional complications - including multi "region" heat templates, multi region lbaas etc (using vpn across the regions), should work out.
Again, it all depends on your requirements :) iFede - Fede's mobile edition > Il giorno 21 set 2015, alle ore 22:13, Mark Voelker <mvoel...@vmware.com> ha > scritto: > > Ignazio, > >> I know there is a nova driver for vmware. >> I' like to know if glance, heat, ceilometer etc etc work with vmware. > > > There are VMware drivers for Nova, Neutron (NSX and DVS, though the latter > supports far fewer features), Neutron LBaaS, Cinder, and Glance. Heat and > Ceilometer also work fine. You can find configuration guides here: > > http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/vmware-vmdk-driver.html > > http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/vmware.html > > http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/vmware-glance-backend.html > > http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/networking-plugin-vmware.html > > http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/networking-plugin-nsx.html > >> As far is neutron is concerned, in a scenario where there are kvm and vmware >> nodes, must I have an nsx multihypervisor solution ? >> Must I insall nsx componenents on kvm nodes (a modified ovs version for >> kvm) ? >> On vmware must I install the vmware nsx or the multihypervisor version ? > > Not necessarily. A common tactic for dealing with differing hypervisors (or > for that matter, different networking or perhaps even storage solutions) is > to deploy them into two separate regions: one for KVM and one for ESX. If > you’re not familiar with the regions concept in OpenStack, have a look here: > > http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/scaling.html > > Essentially since these are separate API endpoints, you can have very > different capabilities in each without having to worry about mixing and > matching solutions. So essentially you might have one region with ESX > hypervisors, NSX for vSphere networking, and vSAN (or any other VMDK storage) > for storage. In the other region you might have KVM hypervisors with OVS for > networking and NFS for storage. Be aware that users must target their API > calls to one region or the other though (since they are separate endpoints), > and logical networks typically won’t stretch between regions. Regions are > often thought of as a construct for geographically diverse datacenters, but > also work well as a means of segregation within a single DC. > > At the risk of being accused of advertising on a mailer alias (=p), since you > appear to have an interest in the VMware hypervisor and network stack you may > want to have a look at the VMware Integrated OpenStack distribution: > > http://www.vmware.com/products/openstack/ > > Other distributions (including I believe Mirantis and HP) also offer support > for VMware underpinnings: > > http://docs.hpcloud.com/#commercial/GA1/1.1commercial.install-GA-esx.html > https://www.mirantis.com/partners/mirantis-technology-partners/mirantis-partners-vmware/ > > At Your Service, > > Mark T. Voelker > > > >> On Sep 21, 2015, at 1:44 PM, Ignazio Cassano <ignaziocass...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> We would like to provide cloud infrastracture multi hypervosor with sdn, >> multi tenancy, orchestration and self provisioning. >> I think openstack with kvm is a good start point but we have hunderds >> applications on vmware. >> A good compromise could be kvm and vmware with openstack but I am not sure >> it is a good idea because vmware seems to me limited in this scenario. >> >> Il giorno 21/set/2015 19:18, "Federico Michele Facca" >> <federico.fa...@create-net.org> ha scritto: >> there is no a proper answer to your question (expecially if you don't >> provide a bit of a context :) i.e. >> what are you trying to achieve? what are your constraints?) >> >> In general, I doubt you can do many of the things you can do with OpenStack >> using vCenter, and probably also with vCloud... (and the other way around, >> there are things you can do with vCloud, you cannot do today with OpenStack) >> on the other hand, by pluging vCenter in OpenStack you can do many things >> that only vCenter can't achieve :) >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Ignazio Cassano <ignaziocass...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> Many thanks Federico... >> So the question is: why should I use openstack with vmware ? >> Il giorno 21/set/2015 18:34, "Federico Michele Facca" >> <federico.fa...@create-net.org> ha scritto: >> Hi Ignazio, >> I am not the greatest expert in my team on the topic, so there my be some >> mistakes (anyone feel free to correct :)), read my reply inline >> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Ignazio Cassano <ignaziocass...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> Hi all, I' would like to know which openstack community edition components >> work with vmware. >> I know there is a nova driver for vmware. >> >> >> correct, basically it will act as a "proxy" toward vCenter >> >> I' like to know if glance, heat, ceilometer etc etc work with vmware. >> >> AFAIK Heat as no real dependency, so no issue. Ceilometer, we haven't >> tested, but any implementation may reflect the fact that OS services for >> VMWare are proxies (i.e. it will see whatever is on the other side like a >> huge compute or a huge cinder) >> >> About glance you may have some limitations, since it supports so far (unless >> anything changed in Liberty) a single backend. actually we had issues in >> booting a vmware volume from an image (using swift as glance backend - it >> should work with no issue using the vmware storage, but then I guess you >> lose the multi hypervisor support). >> >> >> As far is neutron is concerned, in a scenario where there are kvm and vmware >> nodes, must I have an nsx multihypervisor solution ? >> >> >> I think you can use other drivers as well (actually we developed one for a >> customer). Or nova-network. >> >> Must I insall nsx componenents on kvm nodes (a modified ovs version for >> kvm) ? >> >> we didn't go for NSX solution, but I guess so. >> On vmware must I install the vmware nsx or the multihypervisor version ? >> >> >> yes multihpervisor one... I know there were rumors about an opens source >> release, but I hadn't any update on that. >> >> >> Regards, >> Federico >> Regards >> Ignazio >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenStack-operators mailing list >> OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> Future Internet is closer than you think! >> http://www.fiware.org >> >> Official Mirantis partner for OpenStack Training >> https://www.create-net.org/community/openstack-training >> >> -- >> Dr. Federico M. 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