Oh, very definitely +1000


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From:Mathieu Gagné
To:openstack-s...@lists.openstack.org,
Cc:OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions),OpenStack 
Operators,
Date:2018-09-26 12:41:24
Subject:Re: [Openstack-sigs] [openstack-dev] [goals][tc][ptl][uc] starting goal 
selection for T series

+1 Yes please!

--
Mathieu

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 2:56 PM Tim Bell <tim.b...@cern.ch> wrote:
>
>
> Doug,
>
> Thanks for raising this. I'd like to highlight the goal "Finish moving legacy 
> python-*client CLIs to python-openstackclient" from the etherpad and propose 
> this for a T/U series goal.
>
> To give it some context and the motivation:
>
> At CERN, we have more than 3000 users of the OpenStack cloud. We write an 
> extensive end user facing documentation which explains how to use the 
> OpenStack along with CERN specific features (such as workflows for requesting 
> projects/quotas/etc.).
>
> One regular problem we come across is that the end user experience is 
> inconsistent. In some cases, we find projects which are not covered by the 
> unified OpenStack client (e.g. Manila). In other cases, there are subsets of 
> the function which require the native project client.
>
> I would strongly support a goal which targets
>
> - All new projects should have the end user facing functionality fully 
> exposed via the unified client
> - Existing projects should aim to close the gap within 'N' cycles (N to be 
> defined)
> - Many administrator actions would also benefit from integration (reader 
> roles are end users too so list and show need to be covered too)
> - Users should be able to use a single openrc for all interactions with the 
> cloud (e.g. not switch between password for some CLIs and Kerberos for OSC)
>
> The end user perception of a solution will be greatly enhanced by a single 
> command line tool with consistent syntax and authentication framework.
>
> It may be a multi-release goal but it would really benefit the cloud 
> consumers and I feel that goals should include this audience also.
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Hellmann <d...@doughellmann.com>
> Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 
> <openstack-...@lists.openstack.org>
> Date: Wednesday, 26 September 2018 at 18:00
> To: openstack-dev <openstack-...@lists.openstack.org>, openstack-operators 
> <openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org>, openstack-sigs 
> <openstack-s...@lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: [openstack-dev] [goals][tc][ptl][uc] starting goal selection for T   
>   series
>
>     It's time to start thinking about community-wide goals for the T series.
>
>     We use community-wide goals to achieve visible common changes, push for
>     basic levels of consistency and user experience, and efficiently improve
>     certain areas where technical debt payments have become too high -
>     across all OpenStack projects. Community input is important to ensure
>     that the TC makes good decisions about the goals. We need to consider
>     the timing, cycle length, priority, and feasibility of the suggested
>     goals.
>
>     If you are interested in proposing a goal, please make sure that before
>     the summit it is described in the tracking etherpad [1] and that you
>     have started a mailing list thread on the openstack-dev list about the
>     proposal so that everyone in the forum session [2] has an opportunity to
>     consider the details.  The forum session is only one step in the
>     selection process. See [3] for more details.
>
>     Doug
>
>     [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/community-goals
>     [2] https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/vote-for-speakers#/22814
>     [3] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/index.html
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