On Mar 16, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Justin Santa Barbara wrote:

> Can someone explain _why_ we need caching?

        We don't *need* caching - it is simply the most direct way to avoid 
multiple expensive calls.

> With our approach to pagination, without caching, the answer is always 
> correct: each query always returns the next {limit} values whose ID is >= 
> {start-id}.

        But for this example, you have to traverse *all* the zones in order to 
get the list of instances for a customer. How else would you define "instances 
101-199 of 823 total instances"? How would you know where #101 is?

> I agree that in practice this means that there's no way to guarantee you get 
> all values while they're changing behind the scenes, but this is a 
> shortcoming of pagination, not caching.  Caching doesn't solve this, it just 
> creates thornier edge cases.  The solution here is a more sensible ordering 
> than 'last modified', and I question the value of pagination (other than for 
> compatibility)

        The question is performance in this particular use case. As pvo said, 
you can accept a certain level of inconsistency as a trade-off for scaling. We 
would then allow the TTL to be controlled so that different OpenStack 
deployments can adjust this to their needs.



-- Ed Leafe



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