Anne:

Somebody (several people?) have mentioned OSQA as a free Stack Exchange clone.  
We're running it internally at ISI, it works fairly well. It's a django app. 

Shapado is another (Ruby-based) Stack Exchange clone.

Lorin
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On May 3, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Anne Gentle wrote:

> Hey all, thanks for asking for my input. :)
> 
> A few months ago, I said it's too early. This month, I do sense a need for 
> community support, based on questions I see on the docs site and the types of 
> questions in Launchpad Answers. 
> 
> I think we're getting to a real user community and it would be good timing to 
> start a forum, so I say yes, with the request that we have strong guides. 
> Jordan and Ron can be our one-percenter guys, the ones who are helpful and 
> responsive. We'll need other one-percenters. Vish has done a _great_ job 
> responding to Launchpad Answers. It's getting to be really helpful. But it's 
> not quite a forum. And it's not about the tool, it's about being responsive, 
> right?
> 
> I don't want to weigh in too heavily on a tools discussion, because it's more 
> about the community and people than a tool. The responses here seem to 
> indicate that sys admins would lean towards forums. I personally like the 
> Stack Exchange style sites for building a reputation which motivates 
> participation if done well. However, OpenStack is not a big enough draw for 
> them to be a "Top Network Site" like Ubuntu. And the tool is certainly not 
> open source. I don't honestly know pricing or licensing or availability of a 
> standalone Stack Exchange site. Does anyone have details there? That info 
> might help with the tools discussion.
> 
> My main point is that I'd like to ensure responsiveness, so we don't have 
> empty restaurant syndrome in a forum-like support site. The people who will 
> be most responsive to users and adopters should probably weigh in on the 
> tools discussion. Devs won't need to monitor the admin community support site 
> once we get a core group of admins running OpenStack and helping others. 
> 
> So that's my current thinking. 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Jordan Rinke <jor...@openstack.org> wrote:
> Interesting because Ron very specifically mentioned being able to find
> useful and relevant information on the Ubuntu forums without bothering devs
> at the beginning of this discussion (which Soren then noted as an excellent
> point).
> 
> We don't have an extended answer from Anne yet, but she did vote Yes on the
> survey (unless someone else used her name since there is no real auth).
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thierry Carrez [mailto:thie...@openstack.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:27 AM
> To: Jordan Rinke
> Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net
> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Creating a forum
> 
> Jordan Rinke wrote:
> > I think a purely QnA site misses the mark a little, that style is
> > great for a very specific question (And the OSQnA stuff Everett linked
> > looks great) but I think a lot of users are lacking the knowledge to
> > ask a very specific question just yet. So maybe it is that we need a
> > place for random discussion, but that can also specifically answer a
> question as well.
> 
> If you take Ubuntu (arguably one of the largest software-related forums in
> the world), the forums are completely ignored by developers, so it relies on
> a completely separate user community. It is a source for wrong (or outdated)
> technical answers and user frustration.
> 
> They recently set up a stackexchange site at ask.ubuntu.com, and it is a
> huge success. Developers and users contribute to it, and it's a valuable and
> continuously-updated source of information.
> 
> I don't want us to run into the same failure before realizing there is a
> better and more targeted tool available... Personally I would ignore forums
> (since they are a waste of time), but contribute to the stackexchange site
> (since they are an easy way to contribute reference information).
> 
> > 77.8% voting for a forum at this point (out of 18 responses)
> 
> I would wait on Anne's answer before taking any hasty decision based on a
> binary poll.
> 
> --
> Thierry Carrez (ttx)
> Release Manager, OpenStack
> 
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