frans, 

The cloud foundry community has a number of vendors that have leveraged the 
CloudFoundry core in commercial offerings including ActiveState's Stackato and 
Vmware' cloudfoundry.com

The CloudFoundry PaaS project is a great example of an OpenPaaS - and, in all 
it's variations, cloudfoundry runs and scales wells on OpenStack. "Forks" and 
"extensions" to the core project are to be expected and encouraged

This is the "bazaar" effect of open source, the cloud foundry open source 
project has an active and vibrant Community - and makes it "open for business" 
as each variation meets the needs of different use cases. CloudFoundry.com is 
VMware's publicly hosted PaaS that offers a subset of the languages available 
in the Open Source code base. Stackato delivers the software for Enterprise 
Private Clouds to install and manage their own Private PaaSes on-premise. We 
obviously have added alot of additional functionality to make Stackato secure 
and enable it to be easy to deploy on-premise.

ActiveState's Stackato leverages cloudfoundry and a number of other open source 
projects in our commercial Private PaaS offering. We maintain API compatibility 
with CloudFoundry, we  contribute back to the project, we've open sourced our 
client and continue to enhance our offerings.

I'd encourage anyone in the OpenStack community to take a closer look at the 
cloud foundry project and get involved in helping to continue to ensure that it 
works well as an OpenPaaS for  OpenStack.

Diane Mueller





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On Sep 12, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Frans Thamura <fr...@meruvian.org> wrote:

> hi all
> 
> we try to make openstack as paas using cloudfoundry. and also seeking 
> alternative to it
> 
> shocked that there are forked cloudfiundry. and got that vmware manage 
> different way his cloudfoundry
> 
> there are piston, stackato i hear appfog 
> 
> never hear cf manage the way people do. in this case forking esp bosh
> 
> bosh is the link to openstack and got the forker using openstack as platform
> 
> i try to see in different way. hoe openstack work with them and what is the 
> best
> 
> glad there are competition. but sadly one become many rather unique innovation
> 
> any feedback? i try to promote open paas and openstack in one community 
> program
> 
> thx all
> 
> Frans Thamura
> Meruvian
> 
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