The difficulties of upgrading OpenStack while running production services was one of the major feedbacks from the user survey at Portland. Core components are including N/N+1 upgrades into their plans for Havana so big bang (and high risk of extended downtime) upgrades are no longer the default processes.
As a component matures through incubation to core, we also need to have these operational requirements covered. Upgrading 100s of hypervisors and their controllers require staged upgrades. I hope that ceilometer can also include this within the Havana timeframe as it becomes a key component of production, large scale clouds. Tim From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 22:35 To: Tim Bell Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] [ceilometer] support for older versions of ceilometer >From what I understand, it is unusual to support mixing components from >different releases like that. Am I wrong? Doug On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Tim Bell <tim.b...@cern.ch <mailto:tim.b...@cern.ch> > wrote: Doug, Can you advise on what the plan/policy will be for Havana ? - Will I be able to run Havana core components such as Nova with Grizzly ceilometer ? - Will I be able to run Havana ceilometer with Grizzly core components (with reduced functionality compared to the Havana core components) ? Tim From: Openstack [mailto:openstack-bounces+tim.bell <mailto:openstack-bounces%2Btim.bell> =cern...@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:cern...@lists.launchpad.net> ] On Behalf Of Doug Hellmann Sent: 30 May 2013 18:59 To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net> Subject: [Openstack] [ceilometer] support for older versions of ceilometer The ceilometer team has had a few requests for help with older versions of ceilometer or running the grizzly version of ceilometer with older versions of other OpenStack components lately. We appreciate the level of interest in the project but, as much as we would like to, unfortunately we are not always able to help everyone with these "mixed" configurations. During the early phases of our development we tried to maintain compatibility with folsom, even well into the grizzly development cycle. We are no longer doing that, however, and so to make clear what support we can offer, the ceilometer team has put together the statement below. It has been added to our documentation, and we are posting here to make sure everyone has a chance to see it. Regards, Doug The ceilometer team has limited capacity to provide support for older versions of the project. Because the project graduated from incubation around the time of the grizzly release, that is the first version for which we will provide regular ongoing support following the standard deprecation cycle for OpenStack [1]. The grizzly version of ceilometer cannot be installed on the same server with earlier versions of OpenStack because of conflicting package requirements, but is API compatible with the folsom release if installed separately. [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch
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