Hi, Manuel.

If your intention is to have a HA production environment, then yes,
TripleO would be one manner of doing it. Mind you, this does slightly
increase the architectural and networking complexity as you now have an
undercloud-overcloud scheme set up, but if you're comfortable with
that, then go right ahead.

Packstack, Ansible or Puppet are great if you're simply experimenting,
or building a smaller scale private cloud without the demand for HA, as
you can develop and refine the answer files, playbooks, modules or what
have you as simple configuration and (re)deploy when need be.

As always with OpenStack, intent, requirements and longevity are all
dictating factors in how much you're willing to invest in your
deployment methodology.

Hope this helps.

--
Juris M.

On Tue, 2017-01-17 at 00:26 +0000, Manuel Sopena Ballesteros wrote:
> Some people has mentioned packstack as a deployment tool for
> production, however as far as I know packstack does not provide HA.
> 
> Would tripleO be a better fit for production instead of packstack?
> 
> thanks
> 
> Manuel
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Juris M. [mailto:jm...@gmx.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 9:22 AM
> To: Remo Mattei; Melvin Hillsman
> Cc: openstack@lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [Openstack] recommended way to install openstack today
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I missed the initial mail that started this thread, as I wasn't
> signed up to the mailing list at the time, so I'm replying to this (I
> apologize if this is frowned upon).
> 
> I would like to add my two cents to the ones suggesting to use a
> deployment tool, like Puppet, Ansible or Packstack (whichever you
> prefer, really, or depending on any dependencies you may have) if for
> nothing else but the fact that you'll end up with some sort of
> reusable instruction file. This is preferable for a few reasons. You
> can inspect the file to see what are the various things the
> deployment system accounted for to perform the deployment. You can
> then add or change variables to experiment and using some version
> control system save your configurations to return to a known or
> interesting configuration.
> 
> If you're interested in how the actual configuration of the services
> looks like, you can always connect to your nodes and inspect them
> that way, or collect them and compare to the answer file to see which
> option affected what. Also, this will primarily save you time, as
> your experimentation may break the environment for some reason, and
> it will simply become tedious to do it by hand over and over.
> 
> I do, however, suggest that you try to repeat the deployment of a
> service or few by hand in different configurations, just to get the
> hang of it and walk through the process manually and see what all the
> moving pieces are - this will come in handy in situation when
> something breaks and you want to be able to fix it rather than
> redeploy.
> 
> I wish you the best of luck :)
> 
> --
> Juris M.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2017-01-16 at 12:35 -0800, Remo Mattei wrote:
> > The main point is what you are trying to get out. In the enterprise
> > space you will never install it from source now. Too complex too
> > hard
> > not upgrades etc etc. We did a deployment after the initial config
> > of
> > the yaml file the ha 3 controllers 3 computes and ceph servers took
> > 37 min no way you can do that in any other ways.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Inviato da iPhone
> > 
> > > Il giorno 16 gen 2017, alle ore 08:30, Melvin Hillsman
> > > <mrhillsman@
> > > gmail.com> ha scritto:
> > > 
> > > When I originally starting deploying OpenStack I did it by hand
> > > with
> > > multiple VMs just to get the hang of it and highly recommend this
> > > method for any newcomer because it gives you an idea of the
> > > configurations and interdependencies. Being employed to work on
> > > OpenStack led me to use openstack-ansible and to be honest if it
> > > were not a “requirement” for the team I work with I would
> > > probably
> > > still use it though some other options are worth considering;
> > > like
> > > those you mentioned.
> > > 
> > > Deployment Guide: http://docs.openstack.org/project-deploy-guide/
> > > op
> > > enstack-ansible/newton/
> > > Developer Documentation: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/open
> > > st
> > > ack-ansible/
> > > 
> > > Kind regards,
> > > --
> > > Melvin Hillsman
> > > Ops Technical Lead
> > > OpenStack Innovation Center
> > > 
> > > mrhills...@gmail.com
> > > phone: (210) 312-1267
> > > mobile: (210) 413-1659
> > > Learner | Ideation | Belief | Responsibility | Command
> > > http://osic.org
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 1/16/17, 8:44 AM, "Remo Mattei" <r...@italy1.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > >    I would not suggest devstack depending on what you want to
> > > learn
> > > but devstack is tailored for dev. If you want a system closer to
> > > production look into packstack and you can reboot without having
> > > to
> > > deal with the devstack issue and then you have to learn screen
> > > etc.
> > > 
> > >    Also look into trystack if you are just want to learn it and
> > > not
> > > install it.
> > >    Have a good day!
> > > 
> > >    Remo
> > > 
> > >    Inviato da iPhone
> > > 
> > > > Il giorno 15 gen 2017, alle ore 23:51, i...@bjoern-stuebe.de ha
> > > > scritto:
> > > > 
> > > > Hey,
> > > > 
> > > > i used it for study purposes, too.
> > > > 
> > > > I implemented an OpenStack environment with DevStack. This is a
> > > > easy way to deploy OpenStack on your System. You will find a
> > > > good
> > > > documentation on openstack.org.
> > > > 
> > > > http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/single-mach
> > > > in
> > > > e.html
> > > > http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/
> > > > 
> > > > greetings,
> > > > bjoern
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Zitat von Manuel Sopena Ballesteros <manuel...@garvan.org.au>:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > We have been testing openstack for a few days in a all-in-one
> > > > > flavor. Now we would like to have an openstack HA  production
> > > > > environment. I see there are multiple ways to do this...
> > > > > TripleO, fuel, kolla... my question is what would be your
> > > > > preferred way to deploy openstack today?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank you very much
> > > > > 
> > > > > Manuel Sopena Ballesteros | Big data Engineer Garvan
> > > > > Institute
> > > > > of Medical Research The Kinghorn Cancer Centre, 370 Victoria
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