We use packstack when we need an all-in-one environment such as people wanting 
to try out some new ideas 
(http://clouddocs.web.cern.ch/clouddocs/advanced_topics/installing_your_own_openstack.html).

Puppet gives us lots of additional abilities to customise parts of the cloud 
for different purposes such as compute optimised. Details are at 
http://openstack-in-production.blogspot.fr

Managing 220K cores with packstack would be adventurous.

Tim

On 03.05.17, 18:25, "Satish Patel" <satish....@gmail.com> wrote:

    so at CERN you are not using packstack. You are using RDO and done
    your puppet work to deploy stuff right?
    
    I found packstack very easy and handy to deploy stuff, why people hate
    it? what could go wrong if we deploy using packstack?
    
    On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Tim Bell <tim.b...@cern.ch> wrote:
    > You also need to assess the skills of your administration team, will they 
need help to set things up, consulting, formal support contract etc.
    >
    > At CERN, we’re running packages and puppet configuration derived from RDO 
in production.
    >
    > Tim
    >
    > On 03.05.17, 17:56, "Satish Patel" <satish....@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >     Problem is there are many tools available but hard to pick which one
    >     is reliable and provide long term community support, also we are
    >     looking something we can easily deploy compute node, upgrade software
    >     time to time without breaking any code etc.
    >
    >     On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Christian Berendt
    >     <bere...@betacloud-solutions.de> wrote:
    >     > Hello Satish.
    >     >
    >     > You have to differentiate.
    >     >
    >     > You probably used the packages provided by the RDO project for 
CentOS/RedHat to deploy an OpenStack environment by hand (maybe using the 
official OpenStack install guide). This way is not recommended for a 
production. The packages provided itself are production ready, the way you have 
deployed them is not production ready.
    >     >
    >     > For a production you want to use one of the existing deployment 
frameworks or a distribution provided by a vendor (normally based on one of the 
existing deployment frameworks). Some of the deployment frameworks are able to 
use the packages provided by the RDO project.
    >     >
    >     > As a core member of the Kolla project I recommend to use Kolla 
(https://github.com/openstack/kolla). Our product is based on Kolla.
    >     >
    >     > There are other deployment frameworks as well: Fuel, OpenStack 
Ansible, OpenStack Chef, OpenStack Puppet, TripleO.
    >     >
    >     > The “best method” depends on the person you ask for the best method.
    >     >
    >     > If you need further details about Kolla drop me line line, I am 
happy to help you with this.
    >     >
    >     > Christian.
    >     >
    >     >> On 3. May 2017, at 08:48, Satish Patel <satish....@gmail.com> 
wrote:
    >     >>
    >     >> We did POC on RDO and we are happy with product but now question 
is, should we use RDO for production deployment or other open source flavor 
available to deploy on prod. Not sure what is the best method of production 
deployment?
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