Hey Liping, Follow up on this issue, i have configured SR-IOV and now i am not seeing any packetloss or any latency issue. On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 1:27 AM Liping Mao (limao) <li...@cisco.com> wrote: > > > Question: I have br-vlan interface mapp with bond0 to run my VM (VLAN > > traffic), so do i need to do anything in bond0 to enable VF/PF > > function? Just confused because currently my VM nic map with compute > > node br-vlan bridge. > > > > I had not actually used SRIOV in my env~ maybe others could help. > > > > Thanks, > > Liping Mao > > > > 在 2018/9/17 11:48，“Satish Patel”<satish....@gmail.com> 写入: > > > > Thanks Liping, > > > > I will check bug for tx/rx queue size and see if i can make it work > > but look like my 10G NIC support SR-IOV so i am trying that path > > because it will be better for long run. > > > > I have deploy my cloud using openstack-ansible so now i need to figure > > out how do i wire that up with openstack-ansible deployment, here is > > the article [1] > > > > Question: I have br-vlan interface mapp with bond0 to run my VM (VLAN > > traffic), so do i need to do anything in bond0 to enable VF/PF > > function? Just confused because currently my VM nic map with compute > > node br-vlan bridge. > > > > [root@compute-65 ~]# lspci -nn | grep -i ethernet > > 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme II > > BCM57810 10 Gigabit Ethernet [14e4:168e] (rev 10) > > 03:00.1 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme II > > BCM57810 10 Gigabit Ethernet [14e4:168e] (rev 10) > > 03:01.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme II > > BCM57810 10 Gigabit Ethernet Virtual Function [14e4:16af] > > 03:01.1 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme II > > BCM57810 10 Gigabit Ethernet Virtual Function [14e4:16af] > > 03:01.2 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme II > > BCM57810 10 Gigabit Ethernet Virtual Function [14e4:16af] > > 03:01.3 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme II > > BCM57810 10 Gigabit Ethernet Virtual Function [14e4:16af] > > 03:01.4 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme II > > BCM57810 10 Gigabit Ethernet Virtual Function [14e4:16af] > > 03:01.5 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme II > > BCM57810 10 Gigabit Ethernet Virtual Function [14e4:16af] > > 03:01.6 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme II > > BCM57810 10 Gigabit Ethernet Virtual Function [14e4:16af] > > > > > > [1] > https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible-os_neutron/latest/configure-network-services.html > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 7:06 PM Liping Mao (limao) <li...@cisco.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are hard limitations in nova's code, I did not actually used more > thant 8 queues: > > > > > > def _get_max_tap_queues(self): > > > > > > # NOTE(kengo.sakai): In kernels prior to 3.0, > > > > > > # multiple queues on a tap interface is not supported. > > > > > > # In kernels 3.x, the number of queues on a tap interface > > > > > > # is limited to 8. From 4.0, the number is 256. > > > > > > # See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1570631 > > > > > > kernel_version = int(os.uname()[2].split(".")[0]) > > > > > > if kernel_version <= 2: > > > > > > return 1 > > > > > > elif kernel_version == 3: > > > > > > return 8 > > > > > > elif kernel_version == 4: > > > > > > return 256 > > > > > > else: > > > > > > return None > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am currently playing with those setting and trying to generate > > > > > > traffic with hping3 tools, do you have any tool to test traffic > > > > > > performance for specially udp style small packets. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hping3 is good enough to reproduce it, we have app level test tool, but > that is not your case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here i am trying to increase rx_queue_size & tx_queue_size but > its not > > > > > > working somehow. I have tired following. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you are not rocky code, it should only works in qemu.conf, maybe > check if this bug[1] affect you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a way i can automate this last task to update queue number > > > > > > action after reboot vm :) otherwise i can use cloud-init to make sure > > > > > > all VM build with same config. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cloud-init or rc.local could be the place to do that. > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1541960 > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Liping Mao > > > > > > > > > > > > 在 2018/9/17 04:09，“Satish Patel”<satish....@gmail.com> 写入: > > > > > > > > > > > > Update on my last email. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am able to achieve 150kpps with queue=8 and my goal is to do > 300kpps > > > > > > because some of voice application using 300kps. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here i am trying to increase rx_queue_size & tx_queue_size but its > not > > > > > > working somehow. I have tired following. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. add rx/tx size in /etc/nova/nova.conf in libvirt section - > (didn't work) > > > > > > 2. add /etc/libvirtd/qemu.conf - (didn't work) > > > > > > > > > > > > I have try to edit virsh edit <XML> file but somehow my changes not > > > > > > getting reflected, i did virsh define <XML> after change and hard > > > > > > reboot guest but no luck.. how do i edit that option in xml if i > want > > > > > > to do that? > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 1:41 PM Satish Patel <satish....@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I successful reproduce this error with hping3 tool and look like > > > > > > > multiqueue is our solution :) but i have few question you may have > > > > > > > answer of that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. I have created two instance (vm1.example.com & > vm2.example.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I have flood traffic from vm1 using "hping3 vm2.example.com > > > > > > > --flood" and i have noticed drops on tap interface. ( This is > without > > > > > > > multiqueue) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Enable multiqueue in image and run same test and again got > packet > > > > > > > drops on tap interface ( I didn't update queue on vm2 guest, so > > > > > > > definitely i was expecting packet drops) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Now i have try to update vm2 queue using ethtool and i got > > > > > > > following error, I have 15vCPU and i was trying to add 15 queue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [root@bar-mq ~]# ethtool -L eth0 combined 15 > > > > > > > Cannot set device channel parameters: Invalid argument > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then i have tried 8 queue which works. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [root@bar-mq ~]# ethtool -L eth0 combined 8 > > > > > > > combined unmodified, ignoring > > > > > > > no channel parameters changed, aborting > > > > > > > current values: tx 0 rx 0 other 0 combined 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now i am not seeing any packet drops on tap interface, I have > measure > > > > > > > PPS and i was able to get 160kpps without packet drops. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Question: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. why i am not able to add 15 queue? ( is this NIC or driver > limitation?) > > > > > > > 2. how do i automate "ethtool -L eth0 combined 8" command in > instance > > > > > > > so i don't need to tell my customer to do this manually? > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 11:53 AM Satish Patel > <satish....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Liping, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I think multi queue feature should help.（be careful to make > sure the ethtool update queue number action also did after reboot the vm）. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a way i can automate this last task to update queue > number > > > > > > > > action after reboot vm :) otherwise i can use cloud-init to > make sure > > > > > > > > all VM build with same config. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 11:51 AM Satish Patel > <satish....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am currently playing with those setting and trying to > generate > > > > > > > > > traffic with hping3 tools, do you have any tool to test > traffic > > > > > > > > > performance for specially udp style small packets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am going to share all my result and see what do you feel > because i > > > > > > > > > have noticed you went through this pain :) I will try every > single > > > > > > > > > option which you suggested to make sure we are good before i > move > > > > > > > > > forward to production. > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 11:25 AM Liping Mao (limao) > <li...@cisco.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think multi queue feature should help.（be careful to make > sure the ethtool update queue number action also did after reboot the vm）. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Numa cpu pin and queue length will be a plus in my exp. You > may need yo have performance test in your situatuon，in my case cpu numa > helpped the app get very stable 720p/1080p transcoding performance. Not sure > if your app get benifit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are not using L3，this will let you avoid a lot of > performance issue. And since only two instance with 80kpps packets，so in your > case，HW interface should not be bottleneck too. And your Nexus 5k/7k will not > be bottleneck for sure ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks， > > > > > > > > > > Liping Mao > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 在 2018年9月16日，23:09，Satish Patel <satish....@gmail.com> 写道： > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Liping, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using libvertd 3.9.0 version so look like i am > eligible take > > > > > > > > > > > advantage of that feature. phew! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [root@compute-47 ~]# libvirtd -V > > > > > > > > > > > libvirtd (libvirt) 3.9.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me tell you how i am running instance on my > openstack, my compute > > > > > > > > > > > has 32 core / 32G memory and i have created two instance > on compute > > > > > > > > > > > node 15vcpu and 14G memory ( two instance using 30 vcpu > core, i have > > > > > > > > > > > kept 2 core for compute node). on compute node i disabled > overcommit > > > > > > > > > > > using ratio (1.0) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't configure NUMA yet because i wasn't aware of > this feature, as > > > > > > > > > > > per your last post do you think numa will help to fix > this issue? > > > > > > > > > > > following is my numa view > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [root@compute-47 ~]# numactl --hardware > > > > > > > > > > > available: 2 nodes (0-1) > > > > > > > > > > > node 0 cpus: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 > > > > > > > > > > > node 0 size: 16349 MB > > > > > > > > > > > node 0 free: 133 MB > > > > > > > > > > > node 1 cpus: 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 > > > > > > > > > > > node 1 size: 16383 MB > > > > > > > > > > > node 1 free: 317 MB > > > > > > > > > > > node distances: > > > > > > > > > > > node 0 1 > > > > > > > > > > > 0: 10 20 > > > > > > > > > > > 1: 20 10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not using any L3 router, i am using provide VLAN > network and > > > > > > > > > > > using Cisco Nexus switch for my L3 function so i am not > seeing any > > > > > > > > > > > bottleneck there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the 10G NIC i have on all my compute node, dual > 10G port with > > > > > > > > > > > bonding (20G) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme > II BCM57810 10 > > > > > > > > > > > Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10) > > > > > > > > > > > 03:00.1 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme > II BCM57810 10 > > > > > > > > > > > Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 10:50 AM Liping Mao (limao) > <li...@cisco.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> It is still possible to update rx and tx queues length > if your qemu and libvirt version is higher than the version recorded in [3]. > （You should possible to update directly in libvirt configuration if my memory > is correct） > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> We also have some similar use case which run audio/vedio > serivcs. They are CPU consuming and have UDP small packets. Another possible > tunning is using CPU pin for the vm. you can use numa awared cpu feature to > get stable cpu performance ，vm network dropped packets sometimes because of > the vm cpu is too busy，with numa cpu it works better performance，our way is > similar with [a]. You need to create flavor with special metadata and > dedicated Host Agg for numa awared VMs. Dedicated CPU is very good for media > service. It makes the CPU performance stable. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Another packet loss case we get is because of vm kernel, > some of our app are using 32bit OS, that cause memory issue, when traffic > larger then 50kpps, it dropped a lot,sometimes,it even crash. In this case, > 32bit os can actually use very limited memory, we have to add swap for the > vm. Hope your app is using 64 bit OS. Because 32 bit could cause tons of > trouble. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> BTW,if you are using vrouter on L3, you’d better to move > provider network(no vrouter). I did not tried DVR, but if you are running > without DVR, the L3 node will be bottleneck very quick. Especially default > iptables conntrack is 65535, you will reach to it and drop packet on L3, even > after you tun that value, it still hard to more that 1Mpps for your network > node. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> If your App more than 200kpps per compute node, you may > be better also have a look your physical network driver tx/rx configuration. > Most of the HW default value for tx/rx queues number and length are very > poor,you may start to get packet on eth interface on physical host when rx > queue is full. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > [a]https://redhatstackblog.redhat.com/2015/05/05/cpu-pinning-and-numa-topology-awareness-in-openstack-compute/ > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Regards， > > > > > > > > > > >> Liping Mao > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> 在 2018年9月16日，21:18，Satish Patel <satish....@gmail.com> > 写道： > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi Liping, > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Thank you for your reply, > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> We notice packet drops during high load, I did try > txqueue and didn't help so I believe I am going to try miltiqueue. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> For SRIOV I have to look if I have support in my nic. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> We are using queens so I think queue size option not > possible :( > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> We are using voip application and traffic is udp so our > pps rate is 60k to 80k per vm instance. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> I will share my result as soon as I try multiqueue. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> On Sep 16, 2018, at 2:27 AM, Liping Mao (limao) > <li...@cisco.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi Satish, > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Did your packet loss happen always or it only happened > when heavy load? > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> AFAIK, if you do not tun anything, the vm tap can > process about 50kpps before the tap device start to drop packets. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> If it happened in heavy load, couple of things you can > try: > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> 1) increase tap queue length, usually the default value > is 500, you can try larger. (seems like you already tried) > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> 2) Try to use virtio multi queues feature , see [1]. > Virtio use one queue for rx/tx in vm, with this feature you can get more > queues. You can check > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> 3) In rock version, you can use [2] to increase virtio > queue size, the default queues size is 256/512, you may increase it to 1024, > this would help to increase pps of the tap device. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> If all these things can not get your network performance > requirement, you may need to move to use dpdk / sriov stuff to get more vm > performance. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> I did not actually used them in our env, you may refer > to [3] > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> [1] > https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/liberty/implemented/libvirt-virtiomq.html > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> [2] > https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/rocky/implemented/libvirt-virtio-set-queue-sizes.html > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> [3] > https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/networking-guide/config-sriov.html > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Liping Mao > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> 在 2018/9/16 13:07，“Satish Patel”<satish....@gmail.com> > 写入: > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> [root@compute-33 ~]# ifconfig tap5af7f525-5f | grep -i > drop > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0 > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> TX errors 0 dropped 2528788837 overruns 0 > carrier 0 collisions 0 > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Noticed tap interface dropping TX packets and even > after increasing > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> txqueue from 1000 to 10000 nothing changed, still > getting packet > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> drops. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 4:22 PM Satish Patel > <satish....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Folks, > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> I need some advice or suggestion to find out what is > going on with my > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> network, we have notice high packet loss on openstack > instance and not > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> sure what is going on, same time if i check on host > machine and it has > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> zero packet loss.. this is what i did for test... > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> ping 8.8.8.8 > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> from instance: 50% packet loss > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> from compute host: 0% packet loss > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> I have disabled TSO/GSO/SG setting on physical compute > node but still > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> getting packet loss. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> We have 10G NIC on our network, look like something > related to tap > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> interface setting.. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Mailing list: > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Unsubscribe : > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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