-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > On Thursday 20 April 2006 22:10, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote: > > > Perhaps I'm just whining or venting some steam, but the aggressive > > > release-schedule isn't doing me much good. > > > > I too am very concerned about this and agree 1000%. I wonder the same > > thing. I do not want to complain but I have real concerns. > > It's not long ago we went from weekly to bi-weekly releases ;) > > I think that was a correct decision though.
I understand the change. My problem is with all the last minute package ... (installation/support/upgrade/method-changes...) I feel like too much could go untested or HW/BIOS/System problems not in test machines. Once it is released I think it may be used in untested ways with problem not seen in all our quick checking. A lot of the problems are usually caught in the alpha and early betas. The package manangement at such a late time frame in release cycle leaves me really uneasy. I still do not get clean installations to the level of previous releases/RC canadits with 10.1. > However I don't think there are many lessons that can be learned from > the 10.1 development process. Other than too much new immature stuff has > been put in, if SUSE Linux is supposed to be a nice stable distro in > it's own right - and not just a SLED test platform. However I trust that > the problems we're experiencing now won't happen again next time around > - 10.1 is an extraordinary release. I expect 10.2 won't be nearly as > hard on testers and devs as 10.1 has been/is. At such a late time frame... Usually I have many clean installs with the RC's. I have not had one. Also, I am concerned with the HW support or possible missing support that was in many previous releases. I am not sure how the NO non-GPL HW drivers will finally be. I am still struggling testing Supported HW that has bugs or issues. They all are in bugzilla that I have looked up. Some I can not get to the point of understanding what is going wrong. Things that we normally do not fight at this stage are causing a lot of work. I fear there may be subtle things that no one has got to because of the current bugs. > I hope I'm not kidding myself ;) I too. I think the last minute changes caused this. I do not think we will see this done again because of what has happened. I think it is the biggest lesson learned. I have most of my machines with only 128 M or 256 M memory. Current releases are more demanding on memory. I usually have 1G - 2G swap space and they are experiencing a lot of paging/usage. I only have one test machine with more than 256 M memory. I do not want to sacrifice a production machine with the current state of RC's. I usually use one production machine at this stage, but I just can not afford to have it down and not working. Hence my concerns. Thanks for such a good distribution. - -- Boyd Gerber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/ iD8DBQFESDACVtBjDid73eYRAgX+AJ9s/tSXfcxC7dYeN4DTCXCcYGNnaQCfaAto 6oz3ivij1hLuDBMkvD5Qs58= =//gT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]