> I noticed that during the install openoffice.org is mentioned often
> and repeatedly in the slides...

I reported a related bug after testing openSUSE 11.4 RC2.

"Office.desktop still uses the OpenOffice.org icon instead of the
LibreOffice icon"
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675222

Perhaps you can attach your information to that bug.

> As for the codecs, if Users are directed to the Forums, there is
> plenty of comment and direction why packages with various codecs
> aren't included in base installs and where/how to get what they need.

Yes, I know that this problem can be solved. But my point is this:
it's a pain in the neck and it's a major hurdle for new users. As far
as I know, Ubuntu has a restricted formats wizard that automates the
install of these codecs. The user has to consent to the install of
these proprietary closed-source codecs and confirm that their actions
don't violate any copyright laws where they live. Why can Canonical
get away with it when Novell can't? Is this because SUSE has its
headquarters in Germany and therefore has to adhere to different
copyright laws than most distributions?

Pieter

2011/3/10 Tony Su <ton...@su-networking.com>:
> A brief comment relating to the subject of this thread, because
> someone is going to mention it...
>
> I just completed installing 11.4 NET/LXDE and among the numerous
> install idiosynchrosies related to doing the install through a WiFi
> connection,
>
> I noticed that during the install openoffice.org is mentioned often
> and repeatedly in the slides... But it looks like openoffice has been
> removed entirely from the OSS, replaced by the fork libreoffice.
> Personally, I know what's happening but be prepared for the many
> people who are going to comment on that.
>
> Now, I've got to scrounge around for the place to post all those
> anomalies and idiosynchrosies during my install that should have been
> addressed during the Beta...
>
> As for the codecs, if Users are directed to the Forums, there is
> plenty of comment and direction why packages with various codecs
> aren't included in base installs and where/how to get what they need.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:56 PM, James Mason <bear...@opensuse.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Pieter De Decker <pdedec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> And finally something else that causes friction for new openSUSE
>>> users: it's a pain in the neck having to install proprietary support
>>> for formats such as MP3. I know there are complicated copyright issues
>>> involved with this, but if I recall correctly Ubuntu *does* offer an
>>> easy way to install these codecs. It's just one of those little
>>> annoyances I have with openSUSE. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a
>>> hater... I'm just trying to think about how friction could be reduced
>>> for new users.
>>
>> I'm only going to comment on this part...
>>
>> We do pulling the Fluendo MP3 codec for GStreamer, just like we pullin
>> Adobe Flash Player. If you run OnlineUpdate during setup, as
>> recommended, you'll have MP3 support right out of the gate.
>>
>> - James Mason 'bear454'
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