On Wednesday 22 January 2014 13:52:30 Jordi Massaguer Pla wrote:
> On 01/22/2014 01:23 PM, Klaus Kaempf wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > going forward, Ruby becomes more important in the openSUSE and SLES
> > codebase. This is why Coolo asked me to come up with a new Ruby
> > packaging scheme. Read on to learn about my current thinking in this
> > regard.
> > 
> > What are the goals ?
> > 
> > 1. revert the ruby, rubyXY, and ruby-common split
> > 
> >     Initially done to allow multiple Ruby versions in parallel, it
> >     wasn't really used and developers use rvm or rbenv to achieve the
> >     same effect.
> >     From a buildservice perspective, this split cause more headaches
> >     than it provided value.
> 
> in studio product we have ruby 1.8 and ruby 1.9 at the same time because
> the first one is a requirement from WebYast and the second one from
> studio itself. I am not saying this is good or desirable, but please
> take in mind this kind of situation.

Mucho agreed. I strongly vote for keeping parallel-installability. For several 
products (like Cloud) this is a must-have. And it's already present in 
openSUSE (and thus SLE12).

> 
> > 2. Ruby will be part of inst-sys (for YaST)


Another good reason why you want parallel installs. ATM ruby-2.1 is fresh like 
cheese. But this version on SLE_X. Let 6 years pass and take one of our Ruby-
based products. It will likely use ruby-42 by then. You can't drop ruby21 
because of yast but you need ruby42 because of $PRODUCT...

> > 
> >     As you know, size matters.
> >     Looking at the ruby20 package, it has an install size of 18MB
> >     However, 'du -sh /usr/share/doc/packages/ruby20' reports 5.9 MB
> >     just for documentation.

Yes, that better belongs into a doc package.

> > 
> > 3. The new package scheme should support maintenance better
> > 
> >     A split between binaries, shared libraries, and Ruby stdlib seems
> >     desirable
> > 
> > Packaging proposal:
> > 
> > I'd like to generate the following packages for Ruby 2.1
> > 
> > 1. ruby-2.1
> > 
> >     This would provide binaries (ruby, irb, rake, gem, ...) and a minimal
> >     set of documentation (changelog, readme, news, ...)
> > 
> > 2. libruby2
> > 
> >     This would only provide the libruby2.1.so.2.0.0 shared library
> > 
> > 3. ruby-stdlib
> > 
> >     This would provide the /usr/lib64/ruby/2.1.0/ directory tree.
> > 
> > 4. ruby-doc
> > 
> >     This would provide the full Ruby documentation including samples.

The general idea is good, see review of 
https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/213556

> > 
> > 5. ruby-macros ?
> > 
> >     This would be a new name for ruby-common, a package only used for
> >     building ruby GEM packages.
> >     Actually, I'm not happy about the name. It should reflect the package
> >     usage. ruby-devel-build or ruby-build-macros could be alternatives.

Dunno if it's worth discussing package names but it's established practice to 
name RPM macro packages for software foo $FOO as $FOO-macros or $FOO-rpm-
macros. Maybe the later is more obvious.

> > 
> > 6. ruby-devel, ruby-devel-extra, ruby-doc-ri
> > 
> >     These would stay unchanged.

Also touched by the review above.

> > 
> > Comments ?


With multiple Ruby versions in mind, the list would rather look like ruby21, 
libruby2_1, ruby21-doc, ruby21-rpm-macros. Just like we have it ATM.
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