On Sunday September 4 2005 3:23 am, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
> FWIW I add my opinion on this topic. Somebody was asking
> since many people will be having many different kinds of
> requirements - some downloading movies and torrents, and
> some not, I think this will be OK:
>
> 1. Calculate the req space for the full install. Add 1 to 2
> GB to that for stuff that the user may install themselves.
> Assign this for /.
>
> 2. Calculate the swap in the way it is calculated
> presently. (I'm running 2 GB swap and it is never used
> after my 512 MB RAM.)
>
> 3. Assign all remaining HD space to home.
>
> This way, nobody even who downloads huge torrents or movies
> can complain that their home folder is insufficient, since
> even if they had had no separate /home partition, they
> would not have been able to store their torrents etc after
> installing SuSE.
>
> Or maybe a small change in 1: Calculate the req space for
> the install that the user has selected and then allow 1 to
> 2 GB. I would think that anyone who needs a full install
> will usually be someone who can do the partitioning
> themselves.
>
> What do others think?
Hi all.

 This is my first post to this list. I'm currently running 
SUSE 9.3. This is my first experience with SUSE so consider 
my comments those of a genuine newbie. I have been running 
Linux, mostly mandrake Mandrake and to a lesser extent 
fedora, for several years. 

I have always understood that having /home on its own 
partition was more secure in that it was more separated from 
the actual OS and applications. It also seems to be much 
easier to do upgrades to one's OS without endangering one's 
personal settings or data if they are on a separate 
partition.

My real reason for responding though is to say that I believe 
that it is imperative that we aim all installation 
instructions and programs directly at the beginner. That 
doesn't mean that an expert or some such alternative can't  
be offered, only that the basic install must be aimed at the 
complete novice. 

When It comes to partitioning, I think the user should be 
offered a recommended default which requires no interaction 
other than clicking on accept or OK. I do think that a second 
and possibly third "default" or recommended partitioning 
scheme be made available. simply by selecting partitioning 
plan -2 (swap / boot /root /home each on its own partition 
for example.as far as sizing is concerned again I think 
especially for swap a recommended default size be offered but 
that an easily selected option be offered.  IE swap size 
should be: 512M (OK) 1G (OK) or 2G.(OK) or some such. 
To whatever extent possible I believe that words like expert 
should be avoided. I know from experience that it is very 
intimidating to be offered a default or expert as one's only 
choices. Perhaps "custom" could be used instead of expert. 
Even though I've had 3+ years of experience with Linux, I'm a 
complete newbie to SUSE. So I wouldn't be comfortable 
selecting expert as my choice for disk formatting or much 
else for that matter. But I undoubtedly would be comfortable 
accepting alternative A, or B, or possibly even custom mode 
providing it didn't carry dire warnings.

I know that all too often programmers program for other 
programmers. On one of the Gentoo mailing lists they actually 
said that the programmers don't pay any attention to the 
general mailing lists and their requests but only listen to 
other programmers. That's part of the reason I decided 
against Gentoo.

In short I believe that options can be offered without making 
the complete newbie feel overwhelmed or intimidated. 

On the subject of the manual: I do read manuals probably no 
more or no less than most others. I believe that many people 
(read newbies) even if they do read the manual are 
understandably confused by much of what they read. So we need 
to stop telling people to RTFM. The fact that a person (again 
read newbie) doesn't know what to do next is probably not 
because they haven't tried to find out and at least looked in 
the manual!

Something I found very odd about the SUSE 9.3 users manual is 
that the term YAST does not even appear in the index. 

I hope what I've said makes sense to at least some of you. 
-- 
LTR
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Reply via email to