Hi,
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Monday 12 September 2005 19:42, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
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I will surely not get a new server this year like I think I need (quad
Opteron with 32 GB RAM, 15 TEuro money at least), so we have to care that
the current server(s) will stay able to fulfill their tasks within time.
ftp.gwdg.de alone already lacks this requirement these days, so I have
delegated the every-4-hours-APT-refresh to a second server. I really
can't extend this service further, and in fact it is already too much
hassle under professional aspects.
Cheers -e
It's probably none of my business, and you can tell me that without offending
me, but how in the world does this amount of infrastructure get /paid/ for in
the first place? All the bandwidth? The hardware? Eberhard's Rolls Royce? :-)
I've never had even a glimpse of what the various funding mechanism(s) are.
ftp.gwdg.de has as a primary role: serving the gwdg.de net (University
of Goettingen plus the local Max-Planck-Institutes plus - more and more
the last time - all other Max-Planck-Institutes in Germany).
The secondary role is to serve for the DFN network (www.dfn.de) as a
server for SUSE-Linux. We were free to decide this "inside GWDG", because
the payment policy of the DFN (our provider, the german scientific
network) is VERY VERY fair (one of my former chiefs had influenced it
this way): we are paying for INCOMING traffic, but all OUTGOING traffic
is considered a "service to the DFN community" and by this free of cost.
<Sounds good, ey?
Yes it is, but I am currently facing an internal bottleneck: we are paying
for an incoming bandwidth of 622 MBit/sec, but I have discovered that our
physical outgoing bandwidth limitation is in fact 1 GBit/sec (nothing
below I am sure, and I am pretty sure we have in real a 2.4 GBit/sec
connection to our uplink, but the whole local net only has a single 1
GBit connection to the DFN router currently).
The "internal bottleneck" is in the first stage purely human: some of
my GWDG fellows won't trust my opinion that the paid 622 MBit incoming
allows free-of-cost 1 GBit outgoing,
More serious, the next GWDG fellow group is thinking I would need a global
traffic limitation at ftp.gwdg.de far below 1 GBit/sec, to assure that
all our video conferences with "outside" (indeed a lot every other day)
would not see any latency.
So I try to convince my local people currently that we have (quasi
payed) 1000 MBit outgoing, but some local heroes are trying to lower me
down with the argument "ignorance". They argue having to pay for
622 MBit only, and by thus every single bit more outgoing is illegal in
their opinion, but present... I have to fight this week, and we will sewe
then.
What if we had a "New server gwdg.de for Eberhard" fund-raiser? Tacky?
Against the rules? Against the law? Ever tried?
SUSE/Novell is currently investigating, but you may be right that we will
never achieve it.
First hurdles are at novell.com (U.S. laws,).
Second hurdles at gwdg.de (local german laws).
I'd really appreciate having this gap in my understanding filled in...
"Man" is the glue (me, I guess). I like to assure that we in practice
have no real gap.
Cheers -e
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Eberhard Moenkeberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED])
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