Hi,

On Friday, October 14, 2005 at 10:01:53, Janne Karhunen wrote:
> On Friday 14 October 2005 09:30, Pascal Bleser wrote:
> 
> > > Any chances we could set up a BZ voting system for these? It
> > > would probably serve as a good input to SUSE managers as what
> > > is considered as 'serious' by the users.
> >
> > That's not the idea. At least not at the moment. IMHO.
> 
> Problem is that users might be slightly less motivated about
> bug reporting if they never see the fixes. AFAIK even Fedora
> manages to distribute fixes back to community. But then again,
> it's much more buggy to begin with ;)

There you have to understand the concept of how openSUSE developes
distributions. Let me explain. 

We have a "code stream" that is constantly developed. Its called EDGE.
Everytime a packager submits a fix, version update, new feature, new
package its build in EDGE. You find EDGE as an installation
repository here [1]. 

Then from time to time we "freeze" the EDGE stream and allow only fixes
to go in. No new features, no version updates, no new packages. On fixed
dates (usually every second thursday) we build installable medias from
the EDGE stream so people can test the same "state" of the "frozen" EDGE
stream together. First they are called previews which then lead to betas
which lead to release candidates which lead to a gold master. 

Once we have a goldmaster we "copy" the frozen stream to another
location and unfreeze the EDGE stream again. Then you have 2
streams: 

- "unfrozen" EDGE that recives:
  * fixes
  * new packages
  * new features
  * new versions of packages

- A released product (like 10.0) that recives:
  * Security fixes
  * fixes for serious bugs

So the direct impact of your fixes, package wishes or the results of
your bugreports you _always_ find in EDGE. 

Henne 

[1] EDGE installation repository:

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-edge/inst-source/

-- 
Henne Vogelsang, Subsystems
"Rules change. The Game remains the same."
                         - Omar (The Wire)

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