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On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 19:09 -0400, Alexander Antoniades wrote:

> The participation link still doesn't answer where decisions regarding
> the future of OpenSuse are made and how people can influence their
> outcome.
> 
> I realize there are probably private mailing lists and such where
> overall decisions on feature sets are made and goals are set, and they
> don't need the needless pestering of people who aren't actively
> involved in the project, but some insight into this process would go a
> long way.
> 
> >From my perspective exploring Linux over the past couple of years it
> has been this "last mile" of communication that has been downfall of
> the community-based distribution model. I realize that if I download
> the latest development builds, hang out on IRC, monitor the
> development mailings lists and such I'll have some idea on where
> OpenSuse is headed with new releases, even if I'm still not sure what
> I can do to change it. But if I'm someone who's just using 10.0
> everyday, who files bug reports and answers questions in forums, I
> really don't have any idea on potential big changes until they are
> more or less done.
> 
> This IMHO is the challenge for distributions is to actually build a
> true community and not be so top down/insular as to exclude anyone
> who's not completely involved in development. This is why people
> change distributions so much, is because major changes like spatial
> nautilus just show up in a new build and there's not much the average
> user can do to keep it from happening or even know it's coming.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sander
> 
> 
> On 10/16/05, Christoph Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Alexander Antoniades wrote:
> >
> > > I do think that this is the problem with communication in many open
> > > source projects is that we think that signing up for a users mailing
> > > list will give us some insight and say in future releases, whereas it
> > > seems to be more of a first level support situation. Some of what this
> > > thread is talking about goes beyond offering patches and bug reports and
> > > more into the general direction of the project. For example "please
> > > don't make OpenSuse yet-another-gtk-centric distribution" isn't exactly
> > > a bug report/patch situation. How does someone who's not a developer or
> > > Novell employee get involved in the openness you discuss, and find out
> > > what's being planned for upcoming releases?
> >
> > There are many ways to get involved... I'd recommend you to read [1]
> > first. Running the latests development version that's available on
> > openSUSE.org would be another way to find out where the develment is
> > happening. If you want to suggest new features or packages, the wishlists
> > on the wiki would be the place to go...
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >     Christoph
> >
> > [1] http://www.opensuse.org/How_to_participate
> >
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