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Daniel Hatfield wrote:
>> Yes, but things pile up. Packages depend on packages depend on
>> packages etc. Packager has very hard time to get these right.
>> And speaking of Avg. Joe trying to install them..
> 
> Anybody else looking forward the maturation of Klik?
> http://www.opensuse.org/SUPER_KLIK

Now Klik has very little to do with this.
Or, rather, Klik definately does *not* solve this, it's the exact opposite.

Klik - at least as of now - requires having such a "base system" consisting of 
a certain number of
packages, including things like KDE and GNOME.

Actually what we're talking about mostly turns around such a base system.

Klik simply makes the assumption that, as you're using SUSE 10.0, you're having 
a certain number of
libraries installed. Those are not "packaged" as part of the cmg image.
Which means that if you don't have a certain library installed that Klik 
assumes you have, the
application simply won't run. Period. It'll die very quickly during runtime 
linkage.

Klik is great at other things (1-click-install, a single file for an 
application, use as non-root
user, transportable image, it doesn't install files on your system, etc...).
But this is precisely one of its defects: where to draw the line between what's 
part of such a "base
system" and what's not.

My point, about this and as a reply to Janne, is that Linux is a highly modular 
system, and that
it's actually one of it's key benefits. Which means that there is no such thing 
as a "base system".
Klik excels on so-called "live" distributions that consist of a read-only 
ISO/CD/DVD, because you
always have the same set of packages installed. There, you actually have a base 
system, as it
doesn't vary.

cheers
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