-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 houghi wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 02:33:02PM +0200, Liviu Damian wrote: >> The differences between the versions were discussed many times. Anyone >> can search the mailing list archive, and BTW, nobody asked what's the >> difference between OSS and Eval in the past 1-2 months. > > I know it was discussed many times. There even is a voting page on it. > However there has been no decission taken with either: we will keep the > name SUSE OSS, no matter what, or We will listen to the comunity and > rename it to what people want, wich is openSUSE.
I'm not sure it's "what people want", but it surely is what people remember ;) > So indeed we could stop discussing and let Novell or SUSE people tell what > the decission is and why. Don't forget that may involve issues such as copyright, trademark, etc... SUSE Linux is a registered trademark of Novell. I don't know what exactly "openSUSE" is. Don't think it's just a matter of taste, it can have legal implications and consequences we don't necessarily want, e.g. if openSUSE can be used more loosely by community members than SUSE Linux. As you cannot call your own work or distribution as part of "SUSE Linux", you might very well call it part of "openSUSE". If we get "openSUSE" to be the name of the distribution as well, it will have to be covered as safely as "SUSE Linux", hence restricting how the name may be used. >> Personally, I prefer the Eval DVD because it contains all I need for my >> desktop and I don't need to re-master the iso. Regarding the "so many" >> versions... I think the users must have the right to choose what's best >> for them. > > I agree with the choice part. The differences unfortunatly are so small > that it becomes confusing. If many more people like the Eval one, instead > of the OSS one, ditch the OSS one. I don't agree. Having a 100% OSS version of the distribution is of utmost importance. To the very least, the OSS version may be redistributed freely as all the software included is under an OSI license. That is *not* the case for the eval version. Actually, if one of both should be dropped, I'd be in favor of dropping the eval DVD. >> You must also think that there are still people without permanent >> connection to the internet. What should they do? Connect to the >> internet everytime they need a package from the extra repository? The >> way it's now, they can ask a friend to download the Eval CD which >> contains all you need for your workstation (Java, Flash Player, Real >> Player). > > For that I was talking about a disk 6. No, please, not yet an additional CD. Favor quality over quantity. If you add yet another few hundreds of packages, how is the SUSE staff supposed to keep their current level of quality, QA processes, with the same release cycle ? Or did you mean an ISO on the internet like the eval but that only contains the non-Free stuff ? Remember that because of the license of the software that would be on that CD, you're not allowed to pull it from the internet, burn and distribute it. IANAL but AFAIK you may only use that for yourself, because you don't have a redistribution contract with Real, Adobe, etc... I might be wrong though ;) >>> ¹If there would be a tool available that would turn the 5 (or 6) CD's >>> into 1 DVD on Linux, Mac and Windows (OK, three tools) the DVD for >>> OSS would not even be needed, again saving lots of space. No, no way, we *must* keep a 100% OSS version. The typical Windows convert might not care about licenses (he probably wouldn't have ever used Windows if he did) but many people do care about it. Having a full distribution that's known to have only OSS software is definitely a plus. ... > Like I said, if the majority likes the Eval, then ditch the OSS one. They > are too similar to live next to each other. However how I see it, if you No, don't ditch the OSS version. > want the ease, buy the boxed set. Otherwise use the OSS one. Wether or not > the OSS should be available as DVD as well is another discussion. Yes, that's a different topic that involves mirrors, publishing, etc... - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _\_v FOSDEM 2006 -- 25+26 February 2006 in Brussels -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFD1O7Xr3NMWliFcXcRAhctAKCPSnVS2DeRSEs+cHHXrO2fH6doCgCglCvk Kb9ZLtYqNQ+Y0SC5SgFvRG8= =eu/X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
