[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Karl Eichwalder a �crit :
houghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Now imagine the folloing questions: When I not in Gnome or in KDE, I am
unable to read my CD's.
Those questions do not occur.  If a user does not use Gnome or KDE, he
is an expert and knows how to solve self-made problems.  If he does not
know, the answer is: Log into Gnome or KDE.

Please consider this :

I use some headless fileserver on a remote site; the data backup is done on an
external usb2 hard drive swapped once a week by an unqualified person which is
only able to unplugged and re-plug the device.
Don't you think that in this case, console hotplug is really usefull! At least,
I DO!

Of course "hotplug" mounting is useful in a number of cases.
No one said the opposite.

Yet, a number of options could be found to circumvent the lack of subfs:
- autofs
- add mount and umount around your backup process (which is much safer and more deterministic anyway)
- use ivman

I don't see why you can't add mount at the beginning of your backup procedure and then add umount at the end of it.

Let's not exaggerate this either, a lot of people have been able to live for years without "hotplug mounting".
This doesn't mean we shouldn't find a solution.
But this doesn't mean either that the whole system is useless just because that feature is lacking on the console and non-KDE/GNOME window managers.

Futhermore, WHY Someone should think what is good and what is wrong to do, FOR
ME??? This is the very reason why some years ago I quite my M$ qualified
sysadmin job!!!!! Please let ME decide what I should do and what I shouldn't.

Gosh, what is it with you and Houghi, having a bad day ?

We're in a process of discussing this issue and trying to find solutions. There's no need to get mad or drawing premature conclusions.

I consider that this (no more automounting in console mode) is a REAL step
backward as it is YOUR responsability (as end user) to decide.

Could you PLEASE avoid SHOUTING ?!?!?

Thank you :)

cheers
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