Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> The Thursday 2007-03-29 at 13:03 +0100, G.T.Smith wrote:
>
> > Sorin Peste wrote:
>
> >> After running with SUSE 10.1 for a while I've decided it's time to
> >> upgrade to openSUSE 10.2. What I'd like to do is a fresh 10.2 install
>
> [Stuff deleted]
> > I admit to be being surprised about the partitioner attempting to
> > rebuild the partitions. Did you select upgrade/update an existing
> > installation? This usually leaves the current partitions alone. If it
> > cannot find the existing installation there is something very wrong.
>
> The thing is that, although he mentions "upgrade", he is in fact doing a
> fresh install, wanting to leave /home unformated (I left the original
> paragraph above: I guess you misunderstood slightly).  This needs
> entering the manual or expert partitioner mode.
>
My mistake :-)...

>
> > I am just going through the process of upgrading a box from SuSE 9.3 to
> > 10.2 now....
>
> I did the same. My 10.1 got trashed in a disk crash just before backing
> up, so I restored 9.3 and upgraded to 10.2. Went fine O:-)
Not so sure is completely Ok in my case. Getting something weird with
machine deciding that local disk drives are mounted read only. In first
case could have been something I did but subsquent event was a little
puzzling... Of course logs show b***r all as drive it was not possible
to write to the drive *sigh*.  Will be monitoring this....

> > I have so far found that the following got torched.....
>
> > syslog (configuration file deleted)
>
> Not really. There has been a change, and /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf.in
> got removed, yes, but I think /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf remained.
>
In my case not... which stopped syslog from loading and little bit later
I twigged something was not right as the logs had not been updated
sinceI had started the update. Bit of a nuisance as could not examine
logs see what was misbehaving and why...
> Anyway, yes, a lot of configuration files get deactivated, renamed to
> *.rpmsave or similar, and you have to check the output of
> "rcrpmconfigcheck" run, or the output of   and review one by one all
> entries. I prefer that to doing a new install.

good tip .....
>
>
> > Without such a backup in place this process of restoring functionality
> > would be much more difficult.
>
> Absolutely. It is a must, be it upgrade or fresh install.
>
> > BTW I wish that a list of discontinued applications was available so one
> > can access the impact of an upgrade beforehand.
>
> Yes.
>
> There is another problem, if you use the downloaded dvd versus the bought
> one: there are many apps that are missing and you have to install from
> the
> ftp repo. Theoretically, Yast should be able to add a secondary source
> during the install/upgrade phase, but this fails: at that point of the
> install/upgrade the network is down. Yast has not even loaded the
> ethernet
> drivers. I typed the url to be told some crazy error, just because the
> was
> no network. Too bad.
Used download iso...  In the past used to avoid the installation
softwares attempt to update files as part of installation (usually 
problematic). The documentation suggested I would be prompted for
additional catalogues but in my case this did not happen (??). Did
update sources and found courier-imap which saved me from having to
setup the init scripts manually.

The inclusion of zenworks is a little intriguing as I have some
familiarity with the commercial variant of the beast, cannot see it
being of benefit to SOHO users, but if some the workstation management
stuff is in place could rather useful for multi-machine environments.
Seems to be rather undocumented .....


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