Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 07:38 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
lware.
Ok, tell me, seeing that I know nothing, if I can compromise a Linux
users home dir - why cant I send out spam?
I have never claimed such a thing is impossible, but it is far more
difficult to do with Linux. In order to send out spam, something has to
execute that can do that. That means the user has to make something
executable and then execute it. That barrier is much lower in Windows.
The bottom line, which you apparently refuse to accept, is that it is
much more difficult for such problems to occur with Linux. Please note,
I'm not saying impossible, just much more difficult. Please also
understand that Windows was built as a single user system, without many
of the security methods that are standard in Linux & Unix and you can
add to that some extremely poor software design in MS products, that
turn them into a security sieve. This means no matter how careful a
user is, Windows will always be far more risky.
I think we agree on the subject.
Last thing - I dont think most virus/trojan/DOSattack writers do it
because its easy to do it in Windows (which it is), but because its got
a huge impact on the computer industry (80% odd using flavor of Win) ->
and in there lies my main argument, that if it is do-able in Linux
(irrelevant of afford) it will hit the successful Desktop Linux market.
In which case, you're dumber than a box of rocks.
Windows malware often requires NO user action to cause damage,
where as you have demonstrated your absolute REFUSAL to even
understand that the security model of Unix/Linux (going all the
way back to the 1970's) REQUIRES that a user do several specific
steps to make a malware package run...things that a "clueless
newbie" isn't going to know how to do in the first place--thus
protecting him/her from his own ignorance.
Now shut up, and get a freaking clue.
Sheesh!
And thats all he wrote
Hans
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