Anders Johansson wrote: > On Friday 04 January 2008 16:09:11 Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> even if the package management on openSUSE 10.3 is faster it still >> showed its issues during the last days to me :-( >> Please note that installing a Linux workstation worked fine for me but >> what I wanted to do is ". > > is.....?
Oops, somehow I removed that part just before I sent it ;-) "creating a minimal (but usable) Xen image" >> So it should only contain what's really necessary for a Xen DomU and can >> be extended easily to be a web-/mail-/or whatever server. >> >> So I tried to install into a directory to create a package list with the >> software installer. >> Summary: it seems to be impossible >> >> 1. >> my local system is de_DE and therefore the de_DE pattern extensions are >> always added (what's not wanted in that case). >> The QT software manager has no option to change that, while it seems >> that the ncurses one provides a pattern selector for locales. >> >> 2. >> my local system has an nvidia gfx card (and it has the nvidia repository >> added) so the software manager always chooses the nvidia drivers. >> The same for all other kernel modules or packages which provide these >> magic hw keys. > > But languages and graphics drivers can be deselected, no? No, the language packs bundles and gfx drivers are autoselected again immediately. The lang packages are automatically required by the de_DE pattern which is not removable in the QT interface and I have no idea why the nvidia drivers are selected automatically. I _think_ it's because of the hwinfo provides. I might be able to mark them taboo but that's not what I want to do usually since it could create unresolved deps. >> 3. >> never start a selection with too many patterns enabled since you will >> never get rid of them w/o creating looping dependencies > > Can't you disable the whole pattern from the "Patterns" menu? I can sometimes. Sometimes patterns are magically required by other patterns (but only sometimes). But when I tried to remove a pattern, the resolver went crazy and always thought I want to remove all the packages within the pattern or similar. At least I got like hundreds of conflicts (which I hardly understood). And it's not like I'm a newbie. Things like the resolver told me that I want to remove gtk2 (what I absolutely never chose) which breaks quite some stuff. Even telling the resolver that I want to keep gtk2 kept it for the next resolver round. That's what I mean with "hardly understand" because gtk2 is surely marked for installation. Something in the resolver thinks that it has to remove gtk2 to fulfill some other requirement. >> 4. >> there are more strange conflicts which came up all the time. >> For example trying to remove dirmngr only brings up conflicts for >> packages dirmngr "requires", while those are still being marked for >> installation. >> >> Sorry, that I can't easily create distinct bugreports for those but can >> only tell my experiences with all that. >> >> So basically what I wanted to achieve is: >> > > Can't you just install a xen guest? That will not have a default language, > not > install the nvidia driver (unless you force it) and you can select a minimal > install. I tried that first and it works slightly better (since the actual hardware is not found). What really bothered me is that it seems to be impossible to reduce a selection because of the patterns and cryptic (and partly wrong) resolver messages/behaviour. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
