What's surreal is that you still don't see all the stuff I'm doing with WebWork. My usages, as I'm sure you can admit, are very unique. I doubt there is a single person out there that is doing what I'm doing. With that said, I also used to use WebWork like you and the rest of the world did. I see the light and unfortunately I'm not able to help anyone else (or specifically you) see it. And while I don't mean this with any disrespect, you are being quite a roadblock right now. It's been basically me explaining my views and you shooting them down. No one else has interjected and given a +1 or -1. That is why I persist.
Also, all the examples I've given in the last two emails (minus the params stuff) are things that are done today. Also, just to make it totally clear, I've used WebWork for a long time and I have used the techniques that you and everyone else on this list uses. It's true! And I have found a better way (in my opinion, of course). And lastly, to say I'm fighting AGAINST the framework is just wrong. I've used the framework to do things that are new and useful. You just can't see that because you are too entrenched in your current usage patterns to try new things. You say you show me ways to accomplish what I want. I don't need you to show me anything, I'm just as familiar with WebWork as you are. I know the options available, and I choose better options. Your options are poor. Sorry to say it, but (again, IMHO), but you're using WebWork in a fashion that is not much better than writing simple servlets. You aren't accomplishing anything else, and if you say you aren't, go look at the CVS module websquad in the OpenSymphony repository. It does the majority of the WebWork features that you and everyone else use in about 150 lines of code. If you and everyone else are not willing to step up the capabilities of WebWork, you might as well use WebSquad, it works just as well. I was able to drop websquad.jar in place of webwork.jar and switch an application using it in less than an hour. So why don't well all use WebSquad instead of WebWork? Hell, it's simpler, faster, and does the job that you all seem to be content with. In the meantime, I guess WebWork is a dead-end avenue for me to pursue advanced usage patterns and features, so I'll start a new project myself if I need to. But let me make it clear: If you refuse to let WebWork grow in to something more than a bloated version of WebSquad, then I find some other way to get my features in to a project that is more open to new ideas than you are. -Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] More thoughts on Configuration > > > > > >Is no one seeing it????? AmI really just that strange with WebWork usage? > > > *Sigh* Patrick, you are fighting against the framework instead of > trying to use it. No matter how many times I show you how to accomplish > what you want, you don't even try it. Stop trying to force it to work > the way you have set in your head and give what I've shown you a try. > > > I > >say this because this isn't theory to me. This is real world stuff I've been > >developing for about 6 months. It's in an application about to go in to > >production. And it works very, very, very well. > > > > > Lots of us have been doing this for a couple of years now. > Parameterizing views in the config files has been possible from day > one. To have you argue so adamantly that we need to rewrite the config > package to support parameterizing views in the config file is almost > freaking surreal. > > -Maurice > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm > Tungsten T handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en > _______________________________________________ > Opensymphony-webwork mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en _______________________________________________ Opensymphony-webwork mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork
