I don't know how to ask this, but I'm too curious not to: what reasons might Hibernate have had to not join JBoss?
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matthew E. Porter Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Fwd: [Hibernate] JBoss welcomes Gavin and Hibernate I can't wait for the next mock-interview on the BileBlog with Gavin on why he joined JBoss! Cheers, matthew On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 01:01 PM, Hani Suleiman wrote: > Ohdear, poor Hibernate. Foolish Gavin. He seemed like such a nice guy > when > I met him too. > > Matthew E. Porter said: >> While we are on the topic of Hibernate...... >> >> >> Cheers, >> matthew >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Bill Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Date: Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:08:45 PM US/Central >>> To: Gavin King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Cc: hibernate list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: [Hibernate] JBoss welcomes Gavin and Hibernate >>> >>> All, >>> >>> I would sincerely like to welcome Gavin and Hibernate to the JBoss >>> Group and JBoss.org umbrella. I can't tell you how incredibly >>> psyched >>> and excited we at JBoss are about this. Over the past year, I can't >>> tell you how many times we've encountered customers that are using >>> Hibernate or are looking to use Hibernate to replace the clunky >>> design >>> that EJB CMP is. >>> >>> Technically this is a perfect marriage for both projects. We at >>> JBoss >>> have been looking at replacing our aging CMP persistence for over a >>> year now in JBoss 4.0. We are excited that we will be able to >>> leverage Hibernate as the backbone of our persistence solutions >>> rather >>> than having to patch our existing, aging solution or rewriting it >>> from scratch. Hibernate will also become part of our POJO/AOP based >>> solution and a key component of our aspect-oriented middleware >>> offering. These two things alone will expand the userbase and >>> developer base of Hibernate. This means more people finding bugs and >>> more people fixing bugs. >>> >>> JBoss developers have also done a lot of distributed caching work >>> that >>> will be applicable to Hibernate. We will also help Gavin create >>> tighter integration of Hibernate with JBoss for those of you who are >>> interested in that. Things like packaged Hibernate components that >>> can be hot-deployed. JMX management of Hibernate components. Those >>> are just a few of the things that we can introduce. >>> >>> JBoss Group is proud to pionner a model we call "Professional Open >>> Source" whereby JBoss.org grows and JBoss Group recruits the top >>> talent from succesful open source efforts. It enables developers to >>> work fulltime, become pro, on their own projects. Recently JBoss >>> Group recruited Remy Maucherat, the lead developer of Tomcat 5, >>> Julien >>> Viet the developer of Nukes, Bela Ban, creator of JavaGroups, more >>> are >>> coming. JBG offers the rare opportunity to turn from hobbyist open >>> source to professional open source. All core JBoss developers are >>> pro >>> themselves(myself included). JBoss Group professional open source >>> sponsors the top developers to work full time on their projects and >>> thus provides a boost to the projects involved by sponsoring their >>> leaders. Finally the availability of professional services is a boost >>> to corporate adoption of succesful open source projects such as >>> Hibernate. We strongly believe this is the way of the future at > >>> JBoss. >>> >>> Finally, I'd also like to reiterate Gavin's assertion that not much >>> will change for Hibernate users other than that you might see some >>> references /advertisements for JBossGroup services for Hibernate on >>> the Hibernate.org website. Gavin will still retain full control of >>> the Hibernate trademark, website, and project. He will work mostly >>> on >>> Hibernate and will only give occasional support to our CMP team lead >>> by Alex Loubyansky. >>> >>> All and all, I hope you all look favorably on this new relationship. >>> I know I do. >>> >>> Thanks all! >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >>> Welcome to geek heaven. >>> http://thinkgeek.com/sf >>> _______________________________________________ >>> hibernate-devel mailing list >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hibernate-devel >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >> Welcome to geek heaven. >> http://thinkgeek.com/sf >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensymphony-webwork mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Opensymphony-webwork mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Opensymphony-webwork mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Opensymphony-webwork mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork