I absolutly agree with your points and very impressed with such entusiastic
startup.

At this moment the biggest problem is lack of documentation (apiDoc
inclusive) and weak samples.
I hope you have grate oppurtunity to change it.

Regards Remis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 6:32 PM
Subject: [OS-webwork] ww2 initial impressions & docs


> All,
>
> Belated congrats on the WW2 release! I downloaded WebWork2 last night
> for the first time. I thought I'd look it over because I had some time
> and because I'd like to start using it in my apps. I have to say I'm not
> impressed. I'm know that WW2 is a good framework and I know the
> developers here are bright but I was most surprised at the documentation
> (or lack thereof) and overall polish. Most things won't be hard to fix
> and a little work will go a long way for the general quality of the
> release. Note - none of my comments are about the actual code so I'm not
> being critical of that.
>
> 1) First off, there's no README file?! I took a few mins and created one:
> <http://jira.opensymphony.com/secure/ViewIssue.jspa?key=WW-470>
> I might be missing something in there, if so just let me know and I can
> update it. Also, if something is totally wrong let me know - I just put
> together a few things that I thought every README should have.
>
> 2) I installed the demo app (the WAR) and it wasn't very impressive. I
> know behind the scenes it's impressive but the UI of the initial page
> was very unorganized. I took a stab at a new layout:
> <http://jira.opensymphony.com/secure/ViewIssue.jspa?key=WW-468>
> I think in the long term it'd be cool to clean up the demo pages
> themselves a little and also explain a bit better what exactly each demo
> does. I can file an issue for this.
>
> 3) The JavaDocs are pretty bad. A few choice examples:
>
> * com.opensymphony.webwork.WebWorkStatics,
> com.opensymphony.webwork.dispatcher.ServletDispatcher - no comments.
> Also a number of other core classes have little or no JavaDoc comments.
>
> * 10 classes had comments of "DOCUMENT ME!"
>
> * com.opensymphony.webwork.dispatcher.ChartResult - class comments are:
> "bchoi To change the template for this generated type comment go to
> Window - Preferences - Java - Code Generation - Code and Comments"
>
> * Javadoc title on main page is 'webwork' and not 'webwork2' - there are
> also no package level comments.
>
> I don't mean to be picky or anal about this but I *know* this stuff
> isn't hard to do and it would make a huge difference in the overall
> quality of WW2. How can we expect people to convert from Struts if they
> can't understand the APIs?
>
> I propose a major cleanup effort for the next release of WW2 on this
> stuff. I'd be happy to file issues too if you think that would help.
>
> 4) The release really needs a sample "HelloWorld" app. This would
> ideally be in a /demo/app dir of the distro and would include:
>     * build scripts
>     * prebuilt war
>     * overview docs
>     * source code - well documented
>
> I think this would go a long way as some people just want to try playing
> with the new features. There was a Jira issue for this - what happened?
> <http://jira.opensymphony.com/secure/ViewIssue.jspa?key=WW-248>
>
> Let's open that sucker back up!
>
> 5) I'm not a fan of the wiki docs though they're better than nothing.
> I'll save that for another email. I think they just need some more
> polish & better organization.
>
> There are a lot of talented developers here - let's kick some ass on
> these things and do better!
>
> Regards,
> --Bill
>
>
>
>
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