Hi again Tobias,

Yes, users and groups didnt show up under manager and i only assumed that it
won't show if sec.directory authentication is selected (both 'read user
info' and 'read user and group' info).

I don't have access to a proper Active directory server to limit the no. of
users and groups. However i setup an openLDAP server and created users and
groups (~150 users and 4 groups).

Users and Groups under manager shows nothing, i tried reducing the list to
50 and still didnt help...

I can confirm however, that the authentication works; i.e. i can login with
credentials from openLdap server when its set as secondary server (well...
after manually editing the related pam_ldap file because there is (was?
didn't have chance to check-out new version for this) a bug when you type a
comma delimited (no spaces) principal under secondary server.

In A.directory examples, i noticed You are using [email protected].

However with openLdap, the principal is something like
'dc=company,dc=com,ou=Manager'

I boot-up a client, ssh and check the pam_ldap conf file and the principal
shows truncated; i.e. 'dc=company'  only

then i edit this file manually, and change to 'dc=company,dc=com,ou=manager'
and thinclient authenticates with the openldap following the change.

Is it possible to capture a screen-shot of the manager UI when you configure
secondary server with 'read user and group data'?  I can't access to any
A.directory server and curious what the current status is.

Thanks in advance.
cheers!


Tobias Abt wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> akeilo cm schrieb:
>> Hi Tobias,
>> 
>> The article in the URL only shows how to setup the Secondary Server to
>> Active directory authentication.
>> 
>> It does not mention anyhint about how the applications, or application
>> groups (or thinclients if applicable) will be assigned to the Secondary
>> Directory authenticated user/group.
>> 
>> What i am trying to understand is simply this:
>> 
>> OTC setup to read user and group info from secondary dir. server, which
>> authentication works and user logsin to the desktop.
>> 
>> However, there is no application or app. group setup, or assigned to the
>> authenticated user/group (because you mentioned we DONT need to create
>> the
>> groups or users in the OTC manually to correspond 
>> Therefore there is no application on the desktop of the logged in user.
> 
> Yes, true. Maybe I did not make myself clear enough. Sorry about that.
> 
> You don't have to recreate users and groups, but you still have to
> assign an application (or application group) to at least one of:
> user, user group or thin client.
> 
>> The article says nothing about on how to go about managing the secondary
>> directory server authenticated users application (or app. group)
>> assignment.
> 
> Sorry, I thought that would be clear.
> 
> First, you setup OTC to use the second server for user and group
> information. Well, you have done that.
> 
> Then you would have to edit your application (or app group) to
> link it to some user or user group.
> 
> Note: I am currently not sure whether the currently available OTC
> release already has a fix for this situation:
> - if the list on the secondary server is bigger that that server
>   will report in a single query, it will tell the listener (our
>   software) to make an additional fetch until all is obtained.
> - that incremental query is a rather new feature in OTC and I
>   will have to ask Martin if he released it yet.
> 
>> The only way i can figure is to assign the applications to the
>> thinclient,
>> which then the secondary dir. authenticated user will read application
>> indo
>> from the thinclient's assignments - which is obviously a bad exercise.
> 
> Doesn't the user and user group lists show your users/groups? If those
> lists are empty then you probably suffer from above bug/unimplemented
> feature...
> How many users and groups does your LDAP / Active Directory have?
> What kind of server is that?
> 
>> I got the tone from ongoing discussions that assigning applications/app.
>> groups to secondary dir. authenticated users are trivial. Article says
>> nothing about it and I am feeling lost on how to go about assigning
>> application-groups or applications to these externally authenticated
>> users.
>> 
>> would appreciate if you can clarify.
> 
> I hope that you see a bit clearer now.
> 
>> cheers!
> 
> You're welcome!
> 
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