Abd-ul Rahman,
        I was just wondering if anybody else was getting these calls. I was
trying to narrow down where they had gotten my info including direct phone
number, so I suspected it was from the forum. That's all, a simple enquiry.
I wasn't saying this was spam, it just tied in to our earlier thread(s).

Brad Velander,
Lead PCB Designer,
Norsat International Inc.,
#300 - 4401 Still Creek Dr.,
Burnaby, B.C., V5C 6G9.
Tel. (604) 292-9089 direct
Fax (604) 292-9010
website www.norsat.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:27 PM
> To: Open Topic Forum
> Subject: Re: [OT] Anybody getting cold calls from Adaptive Circuits or
> something si milar?
> 
> 
> (1) cold calling is not spam. It takes a human being and 
> therefore it is 
> relatively expensive and therefore it needs to be more restrained and 
> better targeted than spam, which is inherently a matter of 
> indiscriminate 
> broadcast, a true social evil. I *wish* I only received as 
> much spam as I 
> receive junk mail....
> 
> (2) Mr. Velander's company address is in his signature and 
> therefore it is 
> shown with his posts in the archives of this list, which are web 
> accessible. Yahoogroups will restrict access to the *from* 
> address, but if 
> it is in the signature, the address is kept, how else could it be?
> 
> I don't recall if the Techserv archive conceals user 
> addresses but it, too, 
> will keep an address in the text.
> 
> It is really easy to scan archives for "@" to glean e-mail 
> addresses and, 
> in this case, the company name, mailing address, fax, and 
> direct phone 
> number are conveniently there.
> 
> I don't take offense at cold calls because taking offense is 
> much more 
> burden than simply letting it pass, and, besides, it is rude 
> and I too make 
> cold calls in selling design services. Only very rarely has 
> anyone seemed 
> to be upset that I was calling them. If the company name and 
> phone number 
> are published, they are fair game.
> 
> As to genuine spam, however, perhaps the spammers are lucky I 
> can't reach 
> them. Certainly I will support civil and perhaps even 
> criminal penalties 
> for spamming.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Abdulrahman Lomax
> Easthampton, Massachusetts USA

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